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by Mecurious? 18 Replies latest social entertainment

  • foreword
    foreword

    Not only do the eagles have great guitar, they also have great harmony vocals.

    I have used Band in a box, but it works different from a midi editor program. In Band in a box, you enter the chords in their respective place then you choose a style and it creates music from the chords you have given it. So if you entered C-F-C-G, the program could play that progression in the style that you chose say country, blues, swing ect.. It sort've builds a song from the chart you give it.

    Creating your midi files is a lot of work, since you have to play on a keyboard all the different parts, even the guitar parts. That's why if you listen to a midi file the guitar parts are somewhat cheesy since it's very hard to duplicate the strumming on a keyboard. Works for me since I remove those tracks. Basically I don't bother trying to program songs myself, I just download them somewhere. One of the secrets of midi is to have a good sound module or sound card, usually the sound cards which come with a PC are poor quality compared to pro audio stuff, especially at high volume.

    However you seem to be intriged by progressions, Band in a box would give you a quick reference of how these would sound if a band were to play them. It's pretty good actually and relatively easy to use.

    For live music, I'm much more comfortable playing bass, I just don't have enough live experience on guitar yet, however I've been practicing quite a bit. Also practicing vocals.

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Mecurious?

    Speaking of Chicago, have you ever heard the work of 'IF'? They predated Chicago by a few years and imho were the very best of the Jazz-rock bands, perhaps because of their pedigree. They were all long-term jazz musicians before they formed IF.

    Here is a sample of their work, by no means the best, but perhaps the shortest! They fronted two tenor saxes and were not known for short solos.

    http://xrl.us/diij

    Listen out for Terry Smith's Gibson Jazz. He was the first guitarist to use a Gibson Jazz in a rock setting and imho has not been bettered. It is a long, long download, but worth the effort.

    Best regards - HS

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    Merc: Oh, I first played guitar when I was eleven, for a year, then I changed schools and my brother wanted his steel string back.

    I next bought a gutar when I was 23. A Squire (Fender) Stratocaster.

    SInce then I have gone through occasional periods of playing, but I am afraid my lack of application has been dreadful, especially as these periods of playing have coincided with knowing people who were way better at playing the guitar, and whom I sang better than.

    I did the classic bar-band phase at University, but only played a few gigs before splitting up as I found them liking Marilion a musical difference too far; "Lavenders green dilly dilly' ma hairy ass. After that it was jamming with friends.

    I've not really got beyond what I'd call beginner level; I always end up writing something when I practise, so can't really cover much beyond a few songs off the top of my head. I love singing other people's songs, but there always seem to be people who can play better and don't mind me singing...

    Two years ago I did get to the final of a singer-wongwriter contest held at a local coffeeshop, but since then I've been crap at playing regularly or even writing.

    Work's been hell, free time's been short, and I'm quite happy.

    My standard fare of twisted little love songs has kinda dried up due to the classic styme of the 'I'm pissed off' or 'I'm unhappy' songs being far easier to come up something decent with.

    Happy songs are hard to write. They can easily end up sounding trite.

    So, my main love is expressing myself writing songs, but I'm acutly aware my current level of playing restricts the muscial canvas my words can be put on. Put it this way, I understood what you were talking about and can just about explain why a chord becomes a minor, etc., with the additon/ chnage of a note in a triad. But that's about it!

    Abaddon (of the admitting he knows dick about music theory class and has a tendancy to write everything in C class)

    Dreadful thing is, living with a classically trained singer studying at Conservatory, I r e a l l y know how little I know!

  • hemp lover
    hemp lover
    I've played all around DFW area. But, I stopped gigging about 6 months ago.

    DFW as in Dallas/Fort Worth? Or is there a DFW in Delaware too?

    If it's Texas, what was the name of your band? I'm very into local music, so I might have seen you.

  • heathen
    heathen

    DFW in texas does have a very good live music scene . I have seen bands like pantera live in bars , there is another band called XS whiskey that's pretty good with the van halen guy ( as named by russ martin on the eagle ). He does have a large selection of stuff besides van halen.

    with music it's just a matter of taste anyway . one mans junk is another mans treasure .

  • Mecurious?
    Mecurious?

    Hemp lover you have a PM

    Hillary_step:

    Terry Smith's Is a great guitarist. I listened to that song all last night!

    Happy songs are hard to write. They can easily end up sounding trite.

    Very true. I have a friend who writes nothing but sad songs. When I asked him why he repsonded by saying thats all he knew. Most of my songs are happy songs though. But about 10 years ago I wrote
    about 20 songs that were really sad. Some people have trouble writing songs period. But writing has always came easy to me. I guess everyone has their own area of expertise; some people are really good solo players, some have a naturally good ear, some can write and come up with ideas on the fly, etc.

    But one thing that surprized me was how competitive some musicians are. Some people don't play for the love of it, but just to show off...I don't like to engage in cutting contests, but I will if prompted hard enough..

    What kind of programs do you guys use for eartraining? I use earmaster in conjunction with transcribing tunes off of Cds, mp3s, etc. I find it to be well worth the effort.

    M'

  • heathen
    heathen

    My best programming for ear training is turning on the radio or putting a cd in and trying to play along to find the chord changes or parts of the solos . Not a way I would recommend it's far better to buy the tabs which have been approved by the artists . Not the cheezy tabs ..... lol

  • Mecurious?
    Mecurious?

    Not a way I would recommend it's far better to buy the tabs which have been approved by the artists . Not the cheezy tabs

    Good point! Its often a good idea to work out the tune by yourself first then buy the sheet music. That way you can compare notes and see how close you are.

    Also, relative pitch is very important. Its good to know the names and sounds of intervals. Most musicians are often surprized at how weak and underdeveloped thier hearing is.

    I know that I was, but now if someone asked me to sing an A, or F#, Eb, C# or whatever I can sing it right off the top of my head. Btw. this is a wonderful excercise, but for it to really be effective you have to make sure that you check yourself on the instrument that your most farmilar with.

    Contrary to popular belief, perfect pitch can be developed as well as relative pitch. But, in my experince I have found that relative pitch is actually more useful. Still, most people believe that you have to be born with it.

    David burge offers a course on perfect pitch. Another musician that I worked with years ago gave me the book(I never did get the cd that goes with it) and I tried the excercise's and was quite surprized.

    M'

  • Mecurious?
    Mecurious?

    bttt

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