DON'T HONOR THE DEAD----IT'S DEMONIC

by Mary 21 Replies latest jw friends

  • Mary
    Mary

    Well I got a threatening visit "shepperding call" from a couple of local elders last night. Seems "someone" saw me with a poppy on my coat yesterday, which of course is a big no-no. They wanted to ask me about this in person. I've been itching to say something about this, so I invited them both in (much to their sorrow as they soon found out).

    They actually had the damn Live Forever book with them and they talked about how "Catholics kill Catholics" during wars, with the Church's blessings and how as Christians, we don't believe in killing other people (unless it's by denying them the right to a blood transfusion---then it's okay). They switched to how many thousands of brothers and sisters died during the Holocaust and how they "stood up for their religion" rather than denounce it.

    I said that that was fine, but I saw nothing wrong with remembering non-Witnesses who died in the war either. When they said that that wasn't right, I said "and where do you think the Organization would be today, if we had not gone to war in WWII? If America and her allies had not fought Hitler, do you really think we'd have the Freedom of Religion that we enjoy today? Do you think the Third Reich would allow anyone to go out knocking on people's doors, denouncing them and all they stood for?"

    Their answer was, "no, we probably would not enjoy the freedoms we have today, but does that justify killing people?" I replied "...I think you'd feel quite differently if your wife and children were exterminated in a gas chamber, rather than have their countrymen stand up to Evil." I then added "......You say that Catholics kill Catholics" during the wars. How many Catholics died so that Jehovah's Witnesses could live?"

    Dead silence.

    Me: "....And how many Witnesses died so that Catholics could live?"

    Them: "......well um, as uh.........followers of Jesus, we don't believe in going to war."

    Me: "..That may be so, but maybe we shouldn't be so quick to bash those that died for us, when they didn't even know us."

    Brother Moron: "...So what are you saying Mary; that we should honor Catholics who perished in the War? Honor is supposed to only go to Jehovah God, not men."

    Me: "....what about the Commandment to Honor your Mother and your Father?"

    More silence accompanied by filthy looks directed at me.

    Brother Idiot: "....Look this is what we, as Jehovah's people believe. We don't honor anyone who goes to war as that's the same as giving honor to Satan the Devil (yes, you read that right). Wearing a poppy is showing honor a practice which we don't believe in."

    Me: "..Well seeing as there is nothing in the bible which condemns something like this, I think Paul's words should be taken to heart where he told us not to be judging others with regards to eating (certain foods) or putting one day above another.........I don't think I've done anything wrong and I'm sorry if you feel that I have."

    To make a long story shorter, I politely came up with a rebuttal for every argument they had. I was completely expecting them to tell me they were forming a Judicial Committee (at this point, I really don't give a shit), but amazingly they didn't. I could tell they were frustrated and were thinking about what I had said, as clearly they hadn't thought of anything like that before.............I'll keep you posted as to any new developments!!

    Meanwhile, destroy those poppies!! They're demonic and before you know it, you'll be seeing smurfs running around your house!!

  • confusedjw
    confusedjw

    Brother Moron: & Brother Idiot:

    Mary - I know them! (Tell them I said "hey")

    Good for you and good job. They are *only* used to sheep rolling over and showing their underbelly when questioned by them. Likely they will leave you alone as it's too embarrassing to get mopped up by a "Mary"

    Unless they regroup and have the CO visit you.

    Keep us posted.

  • Will Power
    Will Power

    OMG - I was thinking about this exact same scenario an hour ago. I was thinking of asking why? Your comments about the freedoms we all enjoy now, would be non-existant if evil dictators are allowed to take over people's lives - pun intended.

    For evil to thrive good people do nothing - thank GOD some good people did something. There are many forms of resistance - armed & passive, and many different people who did whichever to the best they could.

    Lest we Forget

  • avishai
    avishai

    Mary, that was ASESOME!!!! Nice Job!!!!

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    What is a poppy?

    This is a custom I'm not familiar with, being a dumb murrikin.

  • arrowstar
    arrowstar

    You wear a red poppy on Veteran's Day to honor the war dead.

    is that right?

    Lisa

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    Awsom job mary!!!

  • arrowstar
    arrowstar

    Else -

    lose that "e" key there, hon?

    Mary -

    Go get 'em gal!!

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    Where did that thing go???

    There it is!!! -----> e

  • ConcernedMom
    ConcernedMom

    "In Flanders field the poppies grow..." I'd paste the poem but since I still haven't figured out why I can't get paragraphs, it would probably just be a big mess. Try this link-----http://www.geocities.com/~worldwar1/default-poppies.html

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