NaziUFOIlluminatiRANDCORP

by sf 19 Replies latest jw friends

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  Seeker

  But a juicy, rush-to-judgement grab at something inaccurate that you would like to hear doesn't do any good.

  A good sentence, mustang. The Web is full of garbage (it's full of great stuff too, but it also has plenty of garbage). That's true of any subject you can think of. Interested in something as innocent as sports? You can find fan pages with inaccurate info on them. Garbage.

  The WTS is guily of many bad things that can be documented. But they are not guilty of everything they are accused of. Some who accuse them are mentally ill. Some who accuse them have an axe to grind that blinds their judgment. Some who accuse them are as dishonest as the WTS itself. So what should be done with this myriad of web pages on the topic of the WTS?

  You apply Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection test on them. If something is true, it will stand up to scrutiny. It will not be mere rumors and innuendo. Dragging out every dead cat found on the Net does far more harm than good. I realize skally likes to hide behind the statement 'I don't judge, I have an open mind, I just point out everything.' Well, that's what search engines are for. And once you unearth all that garbage, you apply the Baloney Detection techniques and weed out those that have no credible evidence. Then you post them.

  If you start posting everything you find, you wind up posting a lot of garbage, and why would anyone want to post garbage?

  I could start a web site claiming that sheep and goats are kept in the lobby of 124 Columbia Heights in order to demonstrate to tour groups what is going to happen at Armageddon. The goats are slaughtered by the Cleansing Dept. brothers right there in the lobby, and the little kids on tour are shocked. But then the kids are hustled into the Brainwashing Dept. where they are subjected to intense imagery of paradise settings mingled with individual shots of porn videos.

  Guarantee, absolutly guarantee, that someone, somewhere would find this web site and plaster it all over here with the warning, "SOMETHING MUST BE DONE ABOUT THIS DEPRAVITY." Except that it wouldn't be true. It would just be another unsubstantiated web site with a wild claim and no credible evidence to back it up.

  Does so much harm to the exJW cause.
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  larc

  sf,

  I have to agree with Mustang and Seeker on this. I think you are getting sucked into a lot of garbage that is as strange, complex, and wrong as the JW interpretations of Daniel and Revelation. Now, you can do this if you want. It's your life. However, I see it as a collosal waste of time.

  Please, note Mustang's area of expertise. It allows him to analyze corporate structures and the relationships between organizations. If I were you, I would put a lot more credibility on his analysis than the mishmass of assertions, inuendos, and unsubstantiated claims that you are encouraging us to read.

  Perhaps, you should do the research that Mustang recommended to you, that is, find factual information on all the corporations with the name Rand in their title. It is relatively easy to find out which ones are inter-related and which ones are totally independent and separate entities.
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  sf

  An Individual, like Myself, said:

  < " Now, you can do this if you want. It's your life. However, I see it as a collosal waste of time."

  I respond simply...yes, IT is My life and I do not "see" it as a waste of MY time. Please, respectfully, do not concern yourSELF with MY life. I will continue to post as I am Free to do so, on any topic I choose. As is every other single Individual on this forum. And as I have stated before, IF this topic doesn't interest you, and/or You, as an Individual, have CONCLUDED (final analysis) it holds no merit or truth or reality in YOUR mindseye, then SIMPLY passover it.

  I, as long as I am able, will continue researching what I choose. I will bring, to the table, what I, as an Individual, consider to be of merit, just as others bring or contribute what they consider NOT to hold merit.

  The fact is, I didn't write those sites nor do I endorse them FULLY. I have stated that before as well. I will never reveal to anyone what my mindseye(I) truly sees regarding any of these latest topics I've been posting.(well, maybe just one) But I sure love a good mindbender. And when you find love like that, well, it's simply intoxicating.

  Sincerely, sKally, "VERY APOSTATE" klass...again, NOT a rocket scientist!
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  Seeker

  skally, you are allowed to post your thoughts. So am I. If you should be allowed that freedom, so should I.

  Please, respectfully, do not concern yourSELF with MY life.

  I don't. However, when you post this garbage, you impact MY life negatively. That's why I appeal to you to use your mind before you post stuff. You hurt my efforts when you post this stuff indiscriminantly. Therefore, every time YOU negatively impact MY life, I will ask you again to please think before you post.

  Thank you.
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  sf

  Seeker,

  What I choose to post, has never ever had anything to do with YOU. Do you really think people are clicking these links and reading them? Why? Why would they? It's all bullshit anyway, TO YOU SEEKER, right? So what are you so worked up over? How about telling me the "truth" about your irritation regarding what I have chosen to research? Is it really the topic? Andjust what is it that I am interfering with? You got a top secret project up your sleeve? Is my "schtuff" (which you've already concluded is FALSE) gonna eff your plans up? Wow, I must be on to something then or why do you want me silent?!! Why don't you get all that nonsense off the net then? Why aren't you campaigning to silence the WEBSITE OWNERS? THEY WROTE IT AND DOMAINED IT, not lil' ol me. Why are you on MY ass?? Seems you should be focused on banning any of those sites from even being viewed by ANYONE. Such "garbage" belongs" bagged", right?

  ~shaking her head w/ serious confusion~

  This thread would be on page20 if you just would have passed it over. Everytime you posted, it was on top for MORE to see. THX!!{:D]

  sKally, is NOT user-friendly klass!
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  VeniceIT

  *Steals Dave's cold popcorn, props her feet up on the chair and blows the whistle.* TO YOUR CORNERS!!!!

  this is getting good, dang I was going through fight withdrawls, we'd almost gone a day without one ohh yaa babay!!!

  Let the games begin, first comes first seeting!

  Ven

  "The best way to convince a fool that he is wrong, is to let him have his own way."---Josh Billings
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  Seeker

  What I choose to post, has never ever had anything to do with YOU.

  Nor did I say it did, so why bring this up? Instead, I am saying that every time you give credence to this garbage, you harm my efforts. I am sending friends and family to this site in the hopes that they will see that the WTS is wrong. If they see information about lizard-men and Illuminati controlling the WTS, it will make them think the WTS is right after all. That opposers are either liars or blinded by the devil. I don't want this to happen. It would pain me.

  You are more than welcome to post this information as you see fit. And I will continue to denounce this stuff so that lurkers can see that not all opposers buy into this garbage.

  Do you really think people are clicking these links and reading them?

  Of course.

  Why? Why would they?

  Because you are a respected member of this community, with a good reputation.

  It's all bullshit anyway, TO YOU SEEKER, right?

  To anyone who reads it, which I have.

  So what are you so worked up over?

  Because I have loved ones I'm trying to help, and you are harming my efforts.

  How about telling me the "truth" about your irritation regarding what I have chosen to research? Is it really the topic?

  Not, it's a lack of critical thinking about any topic. There is a ring to truth; we learned this when we left the WTS. But if you uncritically push anything and everything, you cause harm.

  Andjust what is it that I am interfering with?

  My life. My friends. My family.

  You got a top secret project up your sleeve? Is my "schtuff" (which you've already concluded is FALSE) gonna eff your plans up?

  I hope not, but it might. You know how fragile JWs are. All it takes is one wacked-out link to send them screaming back for "Mommy."

  Wow, I must be on to something then or why do you want me silent?!!

  I don't want you silent, and never said I wanted you silent. I keep saying you are free to post whatever you want. Don't you read what I say? All I want, and I can only ask this of you, not demand it, is that you think before you post. If you see something that seems a little dodgy, why not at least say so when you post a link?

  Why don't you get all that nonsense off the net then? Why aren't you campaigning to silence the WEBSITE OWNERS? THEY WROTE IT AND DOMAINED IT, not lil' ol me.

  I believe in free speech. If they want to write garbage, that is their right, and I will defend that right to the end.

  Why are you on MY ass??

  Because you are the ones giving credence and prominence to the garbage. Someone lurking here, who doesn't know any better, may think you are pushing this information (actually I think you are pushing it and then hiding behind your "I don't judge" statement when people complain), think that this is valid info.

  Seems you should be focused on banning any of those sites from even being viewed by ANYONE. Such "garbage" belongs" bagged", right?

  Of course not! I don't believe in censorship! All I want is for you to think before you post. Find a site that claims Henschel has sex with rabbits? Guess what? It ain't fit to publicize cuz it ain't true. So if you find a site that has no credible evidence, either reject it as the garbage that it is instead of abdicating your responsibilty to use your critical thinking ability, or post it but state that you found no credible evidence on that site but here it is anyway. If instead you just post is with a "Man, check this stuff out!" post with an extreme icon, you give credence to stuff that should have been left under a rock.

  Yes, I'm very angry at you, for you are harming my efforts to help my friends and family. I may be able to overcome your abdication of responsibility, but it's harder on me. So just as I defend your right to post garbage, allow me the right to point out it's garbage if you don't.
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  Seeker

  sf,

  All right, I've calmed down a bit, and want to tone down this conversation. Do whatever you want to do; I'll find a way to cope with the results.
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  bigboi

  Seeker:

  You said it better than I ever could. My thoughts exactly sir.

  ONE....

  bigboi

  "it ain't what ya do. it's how you do it" quote from the song "True Honeybunz" by Bahamadia
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  sf

  Dear Seeker,

  I must say, I was not even expecting this statement:

  <"Because you are a respected member of this community, with a good reputation."

  Wow! Really? I am sure that you are confusing me with someone else. I have no reputation!! And if you truly feel this way, why not just give me the benefit of the doubt on this research, and let me conclude its bullshit based on MY OWN STUDIES. Perhaps I will see it as such "in due time". It's a hell of a ride, that's for sure.

  I am pleased that your family visits this site. Everyone ever affiliated or involved in this org should. It's highly informative and it's the freest site on the net as far as censorship goes. It's the only place to gather mega-insight into the inner workings of the society of corrupt men posing as GODS MOUTHPIECE. Does god have hairpieces too? sigh And I take it and paste into yahoo rooms where ppl eat it up!! They ask everyday for newinfo. News, anything. So who am I to judge what is fact and what isn't? I only make it visually available and let THEM decide if it is krap or not. My views have nothing to do with anyone else. And bringing ANY page, website, news, tragedy, etc. that has WTBTS slapped on it has every bit of deserving bandwidth here as does the topics that are here presently.

  Here you say:

  <

  It's all bullshit anyway, TO YOU SEEKER, right?

  To anyone who reads it, which I have.

  Anyone? Do I qualify as "anyone"? Does every other lurker or poster here qualify also? Is it a fact that ANYONE has concluded what you have re: The Illuminati? Those sites get hundreds of hits a day. Is that my doing? If only I possesed power such as that...if only.

  Seeker, I appreciate everyone here. And I dig the freedom Simon allows. I will not cease my freedom in anyway or rearrange it's course in my journey to gain back some of who I was all those years ago. For those who cannot fight this "fight" for whatever reason or excuse, pro or con, I will do what I, as an individual who freely chooses to do so, help whomever needs it. I have contracted that for mySELF solely. My choice! My freedom! Other's are on adifferent journey. I bid them a good day as I pass them by and continue on my journey.

  Seeker, I bid you a good day friend.

  Sincerely, sKally

  p.s. you never answered if you, uh, yahoooooooooooooo; do you? I'd love to livechat with you sometime on the mic.