by chappy 18 Replies latest jw friends
About the Author: Sher Zieve is a conservative political commentator who firmly believes that if Leftists ran the country (left to their own devices), it would be the end of the United States as a sovereign nation. Sher?s articles also appear in Men?s News Daily, ACLU Exposed, US-News.net and other Internet sites. Ms. Zieve welcomes your comments.
Seems someone has an agenda !
Seems someone has an agenda !
And what Angenda is that? Have you actually read the Koran?? Please tell me you have read it from cover to cover, letter by letter, word for word, page by page, and from the first page to the last page.
What conclusions have you made after reading the Koran? How do you feel about this passage?
Koran: (47:4) "Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers, smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly [on them]."
Simon, I have a request if you could please honor it, could you please show me where in the bible that says the exact same thing, letter for letter, word for word? Can you show me from the Jewish Torah the exact same quote? Can you show me from the Book of Mormon the exact same quote? Can you show me from Buddest writings the exact same quote? Can you show me any religion texts other than the Koran that has the exact same passage, word for word?
If you can show me exactly that, then I will pubically apologize for my Christian beliefs that we as Christians are taught to kill any unbeliever who refuses to acknowledge my God and My Savior as well as my Bible, which is in my firm belief to be the word of God.
Lastly, I would also like to request a brief comment if possible to this quote made by Pete Fisher who said....
Can you show me in the Bible where it says to slaughter those who disagree with you? Can you show me where the Bible or any other Holy Book orders to occupy and dominate lands and people and force them to submit or die to Christianity? Can you show me where any other religion is celebrating great catastrophes caused by their religion as the Imams in England do? Can you show me where Christians danced in the streets and passed out treats during the Iraq War or after the Tsunami because we see dead Muslims all over the world?
Simon, is it possible for you to answer those following questions posed by Pete Fisher?? I'm open to listen to any answers that you may have.
Thank you.
Peace
Yiz
um, they usually don't call them "unbelievers" in the bible. Instead they have names like "philistines" (everyone of them was horrible, eh?) or they're in some region that gets slaughtered by god's people...or their first born son's are slaughtered by god's angels...
The question is, HAVE YOU EVER READ THE KORAN COVER TO COVER?
um, they usually don't call them "unbelievers" in the bible. Instead they have names like "philistines" (everyone of them was horrible, eh?) or they're in some region that gets slaughtered by god's people...or their first born son's are slaughtered by god's angels...
If you could please summit to me the name of the book, chapter and verses, I will be more than happy to look them up, but, at the same time, please know this that I am not a "know it all", as human as I am, I am still learning each day.
Thank you
Yiz
Yiz:You've been called out by Under74, dude. What's your answer to this:
The question is, HAVE YOU EVER READ THE KORAN COVER TO COVER?
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I have, but it's difficult to me to understand it all, much harder than the bible since it's not like it's written in the same format like the NIV bible, but I've seen many passages where it calls out death against unbelivers and it commands occupation of lands and forced conversion to this religion. Take a look at the map of the middle east and it's past history of the Muslims.
Right now I don't have it with me as it is stored in the storage facility as it is stuffed clear in the back of the store room along with many books in boxes like the CoC book, many books written by David A. Reed, etc. I also have many versions of the Bible (I just have the NIV with me at home).
I am living in a small studio apt and I don't have room for everything, I am waiting and hoping for a inexpensive larger apt that meets my current income that I am making from my current employment. so then I can pull everything out of storage and have everything on hand that I need and have access to.
I have not fully committed the Koran to memory like I have in alot from the Bible. I've read the Koran once and that was years ago.
Nowhere have I read from Jesus or his Disciples/Apostles that states that I am to put a sword to someone's neck and slit their throats if anyone refuse to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. Nor does it command me to kill anyone that is critical of Jesus. None. I have not seen other religious texts that states the same thing like the Koran. The Koran is the only religious book that states that.
Reading something like that from the Koran, especially from a passage as stated above scares me. It does not offer me much choice, it's either become a Muslim or be killed if I refuse.
As I have stated before, the bible does not tell me to kill anyone that is critical of Jesus. They are free to choose so, they have that right. YOU have the right to be critical of Jesus. I do not oppose it. But the Koran does oppose it. So I have a problem with that.
Yiz
accemekun
Chappy . . . sorry to make so short; my previous post got lost in space. Maybe it's tme for all to become a little antagonized, or is the word enlightened? Fischer's article ( see above ) nailed it.
Wow! So Muslims are out to kill all Christians?!?!?! We better kill them first!!!!!!!!!!!! Looks like this holy war in Iraq is justified after all!!!!!
Sigh....
