Something cause this??? but what??

by Okidok 37 Replies latest jw friends

  • Okidok
    Okidok

    In the UK farmers recall simple circles appearing on their land for generations. The British media first reported on the circles in the early 1980s. By 1990 crop circles had exploded into the public mind as the new phenomenon changed from simple circular patterns into huge and complex, geometric formations. The crop circles are a world-wide phenomenon and each year new reports come from an ever increasing number of countries. However, the main concentration of events are to be found in Southern England, many around ancient sites such as Stonehenge, Avebury and Silbury Hill (the largest manmade mound in Europe).
    Although there are many theories as to their creation, none have been able to explain satisfactorily exactly how the circles are made. But, perhaps some of the most persuasive evidence comes in the form of video taped footage showing small bright balls of white light in and around the crop circles. Many of these lights have been filmed in broad daylight and the objects seem to move with purpose and intelligence, could this hint at a possible link between these balls of light and the formation of crop circles?
    Scientific analysis has been carried out on plant samples taken from the crop circles. The work done by US biophysicist Dr William Levengood seems to suggest that some sort of microwave energy effect is involved in the circle making process. Crop circle researchers are increasingly being asked to use creative and innovative thought as part of their investigative process. Some current field research uses meditation, lights and musical sounds in an effort to communicate new patterns into the fields as the circles phenomenon has been seen to interact with the human mind.
    When two retired English pranksters, Doug Bower and Dave Chorley, claimed in 1991 to have invented the crop circle phenomenon as a joke a decade or so earlier, they couldn't have been aware that almost 300 documented formations predated their alleged exploits. Reports go back centuries and a seventeenth century illustration even shows the figure of the Devil creating what certainly looks like the type of marking in fields which began to attract serious attention from the 1980's onwards. Swirled into growing crops, these circular indentations of carefully flattened stems looked at first like the result of freak whirlwinds. Some were a few feet across, but others were the size of tennis courts. It wasn't long before the appearance of symmetrical patterns and other unusual variations began to throw the weather theories into doubt. By the late 80's, rapidly increasing numbers and seemingly evolving designs, still based largely on circles, had begun to capture the public imagination. Tantalised by reports of glowing lights and other bizarre phenomena associated with the circles, everyone from UFO buffs to eminent scientists was trying to unravel the mystery. In 1990, the arrival of 'pictograms', long symbolic chains of circles, rectangles and rings gave the crop circles their place in history. Newspapers and television channels eagerly reported these astonishing patterns. But the claims of Doug and Dave and other supposed hoaxers soon left the media disillusioned. Despite this, crop formations continue to be discovered in designs of growing sophistication and size which leave many convinced that there is an unexplained force at work. Theories and Evidence There has been intense debate over the circles' origins. Some believe they are communications from Extra-Terrestrials, pointing to the many sightings and videos of aerial phenomena seen in connection with formations. Others feel the lights may be the properties of an unknown natural energy which produces complex ground patterns. Others still have cited everything from Mother Earth to nature spirits being responsible. Experiments with the power of the mind have suggested it is possible to influence the creation of certain shapes, leading some to believe psychic forces are involved. Beyond this, most other popular explanations for the crop circles have revolved around human activity, either involving satellite technology or, more usually, the simple actions of pranksters and landscape artists. However, in demonstrations, human teams have struggled to reproduce designs as geometrically complex as many seen in the fields or have taken many hours to produce anything approaching them. Certain formations have been shown to have appeared within very short periods of time and the geometrical calculation and construction required for some simply could not be carried out in one night. Some of the patterns have shown breathtaking symbolic qualities. In 1994, several galaxy-shaped glyphs displayed a conjunction of planets over the star constellation Cetus as it would be in April 2000, and in 1995 an accurate diagram of the Earth's inner solar system was discovered. Some shapes appear to denote dates and astronomical conjunctions, but others remain obscure and are open to interpretation, seeming to refelct multi-cultural symbolism. Work by laboratories on circle-affected crop has shown biological changes taking place at a cellular level, suggesting the involvement of microwave energy. Other physical tests have shown anomalies not yet replicated by man-made experiments. These, together with the lights, eye-witness accounts, reports of malfunctioning electronic equipment and health effects on people visiting circles, suggest the phenomenon should be looked at more closely. Whether the crop formations are warnings, messages of greeting or abstract doodles remains to be seen. As they amaze and frustrate in equal measure with their stunning beauty, no doubt they will continue to create further controversy. Circular Stories, Facts and Figures Eye-witnesses: There are around two dozen eye-witness accounts of crop circles forming. All describe similar events; an invisible force coming out of nowhere in otherwise calm conditions and spinning the crops down within seconds, usually with surprising violence - yet little damage is found in the laid crop. Tornado-like funnels, light phenomena and high-pitched whistling sounds have also been reported. Quick on the draw: In July 1996, a 915' spiral of 151 circles appeared in full view of the busy A303 road, opposite England's ancient monument Stonehenge, Wiltshire, within a 45 minute period one Sunday afternoon. A pilot, gamekeeper and security guard confirmed it had not been there before 5.30pm - yet shortly after 6.00pm, the massive formation was spotted. Much smaller man-made designs have taken several hours to complete. Longest crop formation: This occurred at Etchilhampton, Wiltshire, in 1996 - a chain of circles and pathways approximately 4100' long crossed from one end of a field to another. Most circles in one formation: The record is currently held by a motif at Windmill Hill, Wiltshire, in 1999 - 288 small circles made up a cross design held within a standing square. Largest expanse of laid crop in one design: The seven-petalled mandala which appeared at Alton Barnes, Wiltshire, in 1998 contained an unbroken flattened area 300' across. Most geometrically perfect formation: Most would agree that the formation at Windmill Hill, Wiltshire, in 1996 takes this award - an endless procession of perfect equilateral triangles, from large to small, could be drawn by overlaying geometrical shapes onto a 1000' triple-armed spiral of 194 circles. If just one of the main circles or arms had been even slightly misplaced, this geometry would not have worked. Most visited formation: Stonehenge, 1996 - it is estimated around 10,000 people entered this pattern, very visible next to such a major landmark. Most publicised formation: Alton Barnes, 1990 - many global newspapers and TV stations reported the appearance of this, the first of the large pictograms. Scientific tests: Work by Dr W C Levengood, a respected Michigan-based biophysicist, has shown notable biological changes taking place inside circle-laid stalks, which could be attributable to some kind of microwave energy. No man-made test formation has ever produced these results, yet 90% of the hundreds of crop circles sampled have proved positive in this regard. Dr Levengood’s papers have been published in scientific journals. In 1995, tests on crop formation soil samples were conducted by ADAS, a division of the English Ministry of Agriculture. Although preliminary, they showed distinct anomalies in the nitrogen/nitrate ratios which could not be explained. There have been other scientific tests carried out by different bodies over the years which have produced peculiar unexplained qualities. Strange effects: There have been many reported effects on people’s health, sometimes of cures, sometimes of ailments, which have come on while within crop circles. Electronic and mechanical equipment, videos cameras and even combine harvesters have also been known to malfunction in very odd ways, far above the average one would expect from chance. Conclusions What would happen if respectable science were to show once and for all that crop circles were being made by methods beyond the means of hoaxers? Would this ever be fanfared by the establishment or would such an announcement simply be ignored? Alternatively, how would authorities react if enough people were to very publicly witness the creation of a formation appearing seemingly from nowhere - and have evidence for it? To accept that the crop circles were coming from beyond human realms would mean reassessing many things traditionally accepted as 'normality'. It would mean taking seriously the big question of what or who is making the patterns. Some believe we already have enough evidence to have reached that point, but the general public seems happier to treat the phenomenon as harmless art. Those who make our rules for us also seem to prefer it that way! Many others feel, however, that the circles are heralds of some major changes for our planet and civilisation, marking either a tumultuous era of upheaval or some kind of spiritual renaissance. Whatever the truth, there is no doubt they have left an indelible mark upon our culture. Andy Thomas

    What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I definitely overpaid for my carpet.
    Woody Allen

  • larc
    larc

    Okidok,

    You didn't write this, so what is the source and where are the references?

  • Okidok
    Okidok

    larc;
    no I didn't. I pasted it from this site;
    http://www.swirlednews.com/
    If u look closer it was signed Andy Thomas

    What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I definitely overpaid for my carpet.
    Woody Allen

  • willy_think
    willy_think
    beyond the means of hoaxers

    anyone with a knolige of construction can do this it is simple layout and transit work. when i do my carvings i use partens like these but i can do them. i would use a post in the center, a rope comming off the post spin the circle do the math and dived it up into any patern i like. it's not hard it's just bigger then the paper patern. to be unseen be quiet. if i can do it ontop of a music box i can do it in the grass. but there is no grass in the citty. maby i'll spray paint the parking lot.

    the ideas and opinions expressed in this post do not necessiarly represent those of the WTB&TS inc. or any of it's subsidiary corporations.
  • Okidok
    Okidok

    Hi willy_think
    Got your point. U must be a talented artist. I really believe you can do it.
    But are u able to complete a crop circle in one hour?? Or maybe you need 30 days?
    some difference dont you think??

    What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I definitely overpaid for my carpet.
    Woody Allen

  • TR
    TR

    Okidok,

    lol as circlemakers or hoaxes they cannot do a complete circle

    Whaaat? Can't do a complete circle? Did I misunderstand you? I watched them do complete cirles.

    TR

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
    —Edmund Burke

  • willy_think
    willy_think

    hi Okidok,

    i'm not an artist just a carpenter who likes to play with wood. but to do it faster i would only need a teem. how do you know it was done in one hour it could have ben done from 2am till 4am. with 6 men that is 12 man hours.

    how do we know that the farmer was telling the truth when he said he saw nothing he may have done it himself. it could have been done in 2 or 3 or 4 days like that. who would know?

    i'm not saying it was done like that, only that it could be done like that.

    now if the crop circle moved a lot of loom or thay were holes 6 feet deep or mounds 6 feet high i would say wow! but to push over grass that is not as cool but i do like them a lot.

    "Other physical tests have shown anomalies not yet replicated by man-made experiments"

    now that is odd, but it might mean that thay did the wrong experiments or have done no experiments or have reason to keep the mistory going.

    i do love the mistory of it all

    the ideas and opinions expressed in this post do not necessiarly represent those of the WTB&TS inc. or any of it's subsidiary corporations.
  • mommy
    mommy

    OKIDOK,
    You have intrigued me, I want to look more into this subject. I think that the time alloted to make these is an important factor. How many have there been? Is there a place on the net I can get more info? So many sources are unreliable, but look legit, is there a site you suggest? I understand what Willy said about the ability for 12 men hours. But don't the circles have to be done in a certain order to maintain the geometric effect? Thus even if there were 4 men doing it, it still would have to be done in a certain order.

    I don't know, but I would like to look into this more. They are kinda pretty too
    wendy

    In a controversy the instant we feel anger, we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves.

  • d0rkyd00d
    d0rkyd00d

    I had to reply to this topic, considering i have no idea why this topic has lasted for so long. This has already been proven to be a hoax. So more complex circles have appeared. What can it mean? That more clever people are finding ways to do these circles. How can these people do it without being seen? and in 1 hour? First of all, who's clocking the time it takes for these circles to be done? If a farmer says that it's not there, then one hour later it is, sounds like he's in on it too. Secondly, not being seen doing the circles? are there really video cameras in the middle of these fields taping the wheat growing? It would be quite easy to do this in the middle of acres of fields without being seen for quite some time, especially if the land were owned by the people doing it. Aahhhhh..

    "No cool quote yet. but i'll think of one soon."

  • Okidok
    Okidok

    hi mommy

    a tons of sites on the net , here is one

    http://www.swirlednews.com/
    another great site:

    http://home.clara.net/lovely/homepg.html

    What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I definitely overpaid for my carpet.
    Woody Allen

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