Thank you

by Pathofthorns 19 Replies latest jw friends

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  waiting

  Hey Path,

  I'm no "mommas boy" either. I haven't been at home for a long time and I can take care of myself. I used to change my youngest brothers diapers (the crappy cloth kind with the pins), do laundry, do dishes, the whole 9 yards basically. (a mans work is never done lol) Most of my friends my age are still at home getting breast-fed still.

  There are adults, men and women, who never do these types of things - like living their own life. Congratulations to you. Diapers (either type) are a reality if a person is ever going to have kids. All my children had cloth diapers, btw. So much more kinder to the enviroment, etc. (they weren't even invented for my first!) At least you know what you're in for.

  If only they captured the hearts of the women in it, they could do whatever they wanted as far as teachings go. Piss them off and treat them badly, they will rip you to shreds.

  If only we were that capable. Some are, most just want what every person wants - which is a lot. The Society did capture our hearts, the dream is strong, hard to be disillusioned. That's one reason so many pioneers are women - they have faith.

  H2o is quite the man's place. From what I ascertain, really has made strides to allow for women - well, women have bullied their way in and made the men be polite is what I've gathered.

  You're talking about a completely different song. I would never post such trash.

  I kinda like the catchy tune. Do you realize that the songs that most people remember are catchy tunes? No deep thought involved? Perhaps people prefer non-deepness, so much easier on the brain.

  Wasn't it Mozart that died young and broke - but the common people of his time remember his tunes. Have, for over a century now. His music obviously goes beyond "catchy" but the common people of his time are probably about as common as they are now, don't you think?

  I guess they feel sorry for single guys or whatever, so they make you something to eat, and you just shut up and let them talk about whatever. (Fair trade?)

  I've had many teens & young adults in my life due to 3 kids - I don't talk to them unless I like them. Has very little to do with feeling sorry for single guys. Perhaps you're just damned to be a nice guy?

  waiting
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  Frenchy

  Congratulations, Path. It's good to have you here.

  -Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it-
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  Carmel

  Well heck now, over at Zarathustra they have the MASTER-BAITER and here we have "Master-Posters".

  Carmel, equal opportunity "master insulter class"
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  Pathofthorns

  If only we were that capable. Some are, most just want what every person wants - which is a lot. The Society did capture our hearts, the dream is strong, hard to be disillusioned. That's one reason so many pioneers are women - they have faith.

  While the dream might have captured their hearts, many sisters seem wise to the reality. You watch what happens when things crumble Waiting. It will be the 35-55 year old "sisters" that will make the Society pay for their ways. Take away "the dream" and there is nothing left. Lots of the brothers will have to wake up too. No one "in the world" listens to some loser just because he's waving a Bible.

  I think all they want is someone to listen to them. Its a man's organization in an increasingly equal-opportunity world. If their husband doesn't listen, it must be quite the lonely place to be.

  What will happen to these women who realize they don't have to take it any more?

  Path
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  waiting

  Hey Path,

  You're right about women and reality. During the depression, the men worked hard - if they could find the work. There are numerous accounts of women doing whatever was necessary to take care of their children. Same in the pioneer west.
  Women can take reality - and deal with it.

  The First World women have very little clue as to what life for women in other countries is like, and what these women have to endure - for their whole lives.

  The Society gave us all what we wanted to hear - Live Forever on a Paradise Earth. And God will love us and take care of us. Could there be anything better? No. Obviously, by the sheer number of women, we buy into the dream more than men. Even the Society calls us "The Great Army". Yeah, privates.

  A rebellion? I don't know, we've been taught to be quiet for so many generations, it would be hard to visualize. However, if more of us go to work outside the home, get education and skills - we'll leave - because we can and have tools to succeed. And mothers won't have to earn a living on their backs to feed their kids.

  Ahhh, but now this is starting to sound like a dream world of equality. I'm not a big believer in that fantasy either. Women and children have always suffered, in general, at the hands of men.

  I always enjoy your posts, Path.

  waiting
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  Roamingfeline

  Good post Waiting.. and OH SO TRUE!

  RCat
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  Carmel

  Well Waiting,

  I've finally figured out what you're waiting for! I, on the other hand, have a great deal of confidence that the reality of equality between the sexes is not only possible but inevitable. Take a hard and objective look at the last 150 years and see if the world is not moving in that direction, albeit at glacial pace at times, yet the old guard which includes institutions like the Borg and Fundamentlists of all stripes are trying to halt the progress, they are dying off!

  PTL

  carmel
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  waiting

  Hey Carmel,

  Naaa, not waiting for equality. Besides, my "lot in life" is not bad - I have a good husband and work in my own business and stay in my own back yard. My husband would ride right over a submissive woman - he wanted somebody strong just so he could remember he had a wife! Poor sucker found one......

  You're right about the strides of women. They do have a growing voice, and the old institutions are dying off, along with the old generation. Where you live, the women are quite strong, aren't they? At least from the news reports we get, equality seems pretty good there.

  Here? Well, you know. A lot better than any 3rd world country. I have no major complaints, particularily since leaving the Society. Being a woman in the South, in the Society, and particularily in the cong. I was in, was tough.

  Now it's better. Btw, what's PTL mean?

  waiting
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  RedhorseWoman

  There's an interesting(?) thread at Witnet about the 50's family, which has been touching on the issue of feminism.

  Some of the attitudes are unbelievable. Feminism is the cause of all the problems in the world today, feminism has caused more people to become gay, etc. If we could just go back to the way it was in the 50's with moms at home and no rights for women, everything would be just wonderful.

  Sad thing is, a lot of JW women think that this is perfectly okay.
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  Carmel

  Praise Thee Loooooord!