JWs Found Guilty (page 2)

Been there

Unless there was two witnesses they didn't do it. Unless the two witnesses didn't see anything. Wait a minute...if one dumb drunk, witness was a witness then that does make two witnesses. Right

I read the article. For crissakes these idiots are in their late 20s!! I assumed it would be some kids that were 15 years old. Ya, that looks really good for "God's Chosen People": vandalizing the property of another religion............stupid jerks. What the hell were they thinking?

We didn't know what it was. We thought it was a broken holiday fixture," Goad, a resident of Basalt, said in an interview after his arrest. "We assumed it was broken because some of the lights were out."

So they thought it was a holiday fixture eh? And that's supposed to explain why they were vandalizing it?

"We're going to catch hell for this," Goad said after his arrest. "That was pretty dumb."

Ya think? The Judicial Committee (which I'm sure is forming as we speak) won't give a rat's ass that they were destroying something inportant to the Jewish holidays, but because they got caught and now it's "brought reproach upon Jehovah's Organization".

the religious backgrounds of the men are not believed to have been a factor.

I guess these cops don't know an awful lot about JWs, because religion probably played a MAJOR factor here.

Will Power

sorry, I don't have formatting capabilities but I found this on the net

One of the oldest symbols of the Jewish faith is the menorah, a seven-branched candelabrum used in the Temple. The kohanim lit the menorah in the Sanctuary every evening and cleaned it out every morning, replacing the wicks and putting fresh olive oil into the cups. The illustration at left is based on instructions for construction of the menorah found in Exodus 25:31-40.

It has been said that the menorah is a symbol of the nation of Israel and our mission to be "a light unto the nations." (Isaiah 42:6). The sages emphasize that light is not a violent force; Israel is to accomplish its mission by setting an example, not by using force. This idea is highlighted in the vision in Zechariah 4:1-6. Zechariah sees a menorah, and G-d explains: "Not by might, nor by power, but by My spirit."

Not a religious thing? A religious group who demands they are the only true followers of the bible and of all Jehovahs rules etc, no one studies the bible like them, they are the true spiritual israel -

steve2

In a religion where impression management is everything, these morons had the dumb luck to be caught! How embarrassing for the Watchtower.

Kenneson

"We thought it was a broken holiday fixture," Goad said...in an interview after his arrest."

Yeah, right. And they were just trying to "fix" it.

144001

I actually believe they were sincere. I've known JWs that were even stupider than these guys!

candidlynuts

they were bad bad jw's.

cuz if they were good ones.. they'd have been :

at a meeting

studying book study book

studying for wt lesson

out in service

preparing for service

reading their daily bible reading

reading the text

praying

etc etc etc....

mama

This is priceless, lmao. So its ok to vandilize of part of the pagan christmas holidays, but not a menora! These two will be D'F for sure. The cong will have no choice, cause the "reproach on Jehovah's name" or should i say the reproach on the watchtower society, ha, ha. Well, one good thing, maybe those two idiots who did it, will be kicked out and wake up, see the light etc. Cause, being jws obviously has affected their judgement and intelligence. Just a note, isn't funny how the jws always say reproach on Jehovah's name, that's blasephemy isn't it, saying that God is reproachable?

JustTickledPink

I remember being taught from such a small age who "bad" Christmas was. We moved and still received mail for about a year for the previous tenant. At Christmas time someone sent the previous tenant a Christmas card... well, I opened up the mailbox and I saw it and thought how "bad" it was. I think I was about 8 years old. I shredded it and threw it away.

Well, the trash can blew over and the peices went flying and then my mom found it and said whoever did this was such a criminal because they obviously were looking for Christmas cash and were stealing mail hoping to find money. I felt so guilty because I thought tearing it up was the right thing to do, and then her talking so badly about whoever did it made me feel horrible.

I never admitted to doing it until I was about 18 yoa. I carried it around like some sin... of course there was no money in it. It was just a card, but I will never forget who ingrained the idea of what things were "bad".... it ends up teaching kids intolerance.

That is also why some kids think it's okay to make fun of other religions, other holidays, etc.. because they are taught these things are "bad" in Jehovah's eyes... JW's aren't taught tolerance or acceptance. They are taught very black and white. (of course in general, some parents actually are more liberal)

Country_Woman

Helas, when I tried to view the article, it obviously underwent a change, at the moment it shows:

City Council needs a curfew

The meeting began innocently enough at 5 p.m. Monday, before coming to a halt nearly eight hours later -- or to be more precise, 12:45 a.m. Tuesday.
By then, the few people remaining in the chambers of City Hall were our elected officials, a few bureaucrats and a cameraperson from GrassRoots Television. All were exhausted, as they should have been. Even Aspen gadfly Toni Kronberg, the lone member of the public who persevered through the meeting, was seen nodding off in the wee hours of Tuesday.
While the council members' commitment to resolving the issues on the agenda that night is commendable, it is also disturbing in two ways.
First, we question how our councilors can make sound, reasonable decisions at midnight -- or for that matter, 11 p.m. -- about issues that affect the public. Our elected officials also have day jobs, meaning by the time 11 p.m. approaches, some of them have already tallied 14 hours on the clock.
Second, we feel late meetings such as this deny the public legitimate access to issues the council is discussing. By midnight, most people are asleep. And the ones that are awake have probably had a few cocktails, and City Council is the last thing on their minds. And if it is on their minds, we're all in for a long night.
Saying that, we urge officials to strongly consider placing a 10 p.m. curfew on City Council meetings. Five hours is plenty of time, and the people attending these meetings should be well prepared before stepping into the council chambers.
If not a curfew, then possibly moving the start of the meeting up to 3 p.m., saving public comments for the end of the meeting. City staff also should be realistic before it lays out its agenda for council meetings.
While Aspen is a town known for its endurance, be it on the ski slopes or at the bars, the epic council meetings need to stop.
Mayor Helen Klanderud said that Monday night's meeting was a rarity in terms of its length, and she's working with city staff to make sure public gatherings don't meander like that any more.
We hope her fellow council members and city staffers agree. After all, their sanity, not to mention due process, is at stake.

JWs Found Guilty