Seeing JWs in a positive light. (page 2)

buffalosrfree

seeing jws in a positive light. now that is an oxymoronic thought and an exercise in futility for some of us.

fairchild

(wannaexit) The org has the same mix of people as any other place. You have the really nice folks and the ones you could do without.

I totally agree with that. I also think that most on this board are not against JW's as individuals, but they are opposed to the organisation of which those individuals are a part.

My JW-Pioneer-for-many-years sister is the most kindhearted person you'd ever want to meet. She was horribly abused as alittle child, ending up married and pregnant at 15. Two more marriages followed.

She became JW somewhere between husband 2 and husband 3. They promised her everything the world had never given her -- respect, hope, love, approval, acceptance, and a joyful life in paradise with happy people forever. Of course she jumped at it.

Since then she has been the picture of the model JW. But over the years, she has suffered terrible depressions, even becoming suicidal, as the promises failed to materialize. Yet she will not let go of the promises they made so long ago. She just sent me a copy of the "talk" she is giving this week.

She has, however, begun making comments such as how she "wishes" her children could have had all the activities my church offered for my children. She has begun sending birthday cards that actually say "happy birthday" on them instead of "for your special day". She even sent a gift this year. And a Christmas card with a lighted tree on the front, and a gift inside. She attended the wedding reception of our son, in our church. She attended part of a church meeting with me one Sunday when visiting from out of state (where nobody would know her). She helped decorate a Christmas tree for an elderly woman she works for. She stopped using "Jehovah" in her letters to me, but only says, "Heavenly Father" (my choice of diety names). She will use the KJV to send me Bible quotes.

It is double-think and a double life that is not healthy for her. Undoubtedly there are many others like her, doing the same things, being model JWs when people are looking, but thinking and acting more like non-JWs when they are alone. I don't have any answers or solutions, other than to keep loving and supporting them, and showing them the simple truth that there is goodness to be found outside of the JW life.

I believe there must be many gentle, goodhearted, loving people within the ranks of JWs. Like my sister.

Susan

observador

Sometimes on here I worry that all JWs are painted with a bad brush

Besides generalizing and distorting what people's views really are, you live in a fantasy world, Scoob.

You keep forgetting that JWs are trained to see everybody as a potential "bible student" and go the extra mile to give them a "good witness", until they find out that you're an undecided JW, gay, who may not believe the 1914 scam, who may donate and accept blood to save a life... you name it.

Stop dreaming and wake up to reality, my friend!

Observador.

CountryGuy

I don't know Scoob.... sometimes I kinda feel the same way you do.

But, then I realize that for most of them it's just an act until they know for sure that you are never going to believe (or no longer believe) what they do. Even the nicest will shun someone (even their own child/parent/sibling) when told to. Why? Because they are following orders. That's never been a valid excuse in my opinion.

Country

ScoobySnax

Being gay and out away from the brothers and sisters, and out of the truth doesn't stop me having an opinion, or make me less entitled to one than some of you straight ones out there who are out yourselves. I did get angry about a couple of peoples comments that bought this aspect into it. (Did you tell them you are an ex JW homosexual etc etc) that really has no bearing on this post, or what I was trying to say.

But then I thought, you are the type of people I will never understand, and don't really want to. When all is said and done, I can still post about what I'm thinking, without all that other crap.

I still stand by what I say and think

Scoob

gumby

I also think that most on this board are not against JW's as individuals, but they are opposed to the organisation of which those individuals are a part.

And that Organisation was created by only a handful of men.

These men created a religion that fooled many many good people. These people are still good people who have allowed their goodness to be obscured oftentimes by a handful of men. Of course there are good people in the Organisation....it would be a lie to say different. Take for instance my daughter.....shes a good mommy, wife, and sweet daughter, but she shuns her father in social interaction. Is she now a bad daughter....or just my little sweetheart who's dad brought her up in the way he thought was right and she still believes it? Millions of dubs are no different.

Gumby

Seeing JWs in a positive light.

buffalosrfree

fairchild

SusanHere

observador

CountryGuy

ScoobySnax

gumby

LoverOfTruth

LoverOfTruth

ScoobySnax

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