IS the GB and other Higher UP Squirreling away money from the IRS?

by frankiespeakin 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • Scully
    Scully

    The COs and DOs in Canada have it made in the shade. They are required (as are Bethelites) to sign a perpetual vow of poverty as a member of a religious order. The government requires that any income they receive should be turned over to the religious order (now we know where the award that was given to Shane Brady went!), however a neat little loophole in this arrangement is that they can be reimbursed for expenses incurred in performing their services. So you have COs who rack up gas expenses, meals in nice restaurants, dry cleaning for himself and his wife, etc. and then turn the receipts over to the congregation at the end of the week with the expectation that they will be reimbursed.

    Vow of perpetual poverty

    If you have taken a vow of perpetual poverty as a member of a religious order, you can deduct the amount of earned income and pension benefits that you have given to the order. Attach to your paper return a letter from your order or your employer stating that you have taken a vow of perpetual poverty. For more information, see Interpretation Bulletin IT-86, Vow of Perpetual Poverty.

    http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tp/it86r/it86r-e.html

    IT86R Vow of perpetual poverty

    IT

    INCOME TAX ACT Vow of Perpetual Poverty

    IT-86R September 8, 1975

    Subsection 110(2)

    This bulletin cancels and replaces Interpretation Bulletin IT-86 issued on January 18, 1973.

    1. Subsection 110(2) of the Income Tax Act provides that, where a person is a member of a religious order and as such, has taken a vow of perpetual poverty and, in accordance therewith, has paid over to the order his entire earned income for the year, and, for the 1972 and subsequent years, his entire superannuation or pension benefits, he may claim the amount so paid in the year as a deduction in computing his taxable income for the year.

    2. Earned income for this purpose is defined in paragraph 63(3)(b) and includes salaries and wages as well as scholarships, bursaries and research grants. It does not include investment income, such as dividends and interest, and no deduction may be claimed under subsection 110(2) in respect of such income even if it is paid over to the order. Superannuation or pension benefits are defined in subsection 248(1).

    3. A claim for a deduction under subsection 110(2) must generally be substantiated by a letter from the religious order, stating that the taxpayer is a member of the order and, as such, has taken a vow of perpetual poverty and given to the order his entire superannuation or pension benefits (after 1971) and his entire earned income for the year.

    4. In some circumstances, a person who has not taken a vow of perpetual poverty may arrange or agree that a salary to which he is legally entitled for teaching or other services will be paid to a religious institution and he, in return, will receive board, lodging and a small living allowance. Subsection 110(2) is, of course, not applicable in a situation of this kind and the full amount of the salary earned by such a person must be included in his income. As an offset in arriving at the amount of his taxable income for the year, the difference between the salary assigned or paid over by him to the religious institution and the value of the board, lodging and living allowance received may be deducted as a charitable donation, subject to the maximum deduction authorized in the Act of 20 per cent of income for the year. (This deduction of up to 20 per cent of income for charitable donations is available to all taxpayers, except those who have claimed a deduction under subsection 110(2) for the year.)

    5. Where a person who has taken a vow of perpetual poverty is paid a salary for teaching or other services from which he deducts the cost of his board, lodging and a small living allowance and remits the balance to his religious order, subsection 110(2) is not applicable as his entire superannuation or pension benefits (after 1971) and his entire earned income for the year have not been paid over to his order. As in the previous paragraph, the amount remitted to the religious order may, however, be claimed as a charitable donation, subject to the maximum deduction of 20 per cent of income for the year.

    6. Where a school board or other employer is directed to pay the salary of an employee to a religious institution, income tax and Canada Pension Plan contributions must be deducted and remitted in the usual way unless evidence is supplied that the employee is one to whom subsection 110(2) is applicable for the reason that he is a member of a religious order who, as such, has taken a vow of perpetual poverty and the salary is to be paid to that order.

    7. A member of a religious order who was under a vow of perpetual poverty for part of the year only (e.g., because he took the vow, or was released from it, during the year) may claim a deduction under subsection 110(2) for the amount of his superannuation or pension benefits in addition to his earned income for that part of the year, if the whole of that amount was paid over to his order. He may not in these circumstances, deduct from his income charitable donations which he made before he took the vow or after he was released from it. Alternatively, he may waive the deduction under subsection 110(2) altogether and claim charitable donations made at any time in the year (including the amount paid to his order) up to a limit of 20 per cent of his total income for the year.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Will,

    do you know something?

    No only feel it,,or maybe hope it and think I feel it,,I was just thinking the government loses alot of money to these tricksters that lead cults and so perhaps I think the government will see the need to investigate them as a safety measure and make sure they not neglect a potential sorce of revenue.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    I would also think that if higher ups have been doing this and getting away with it like Rutherford having the brothers smuggle booze from Canada for his enjoyment durring prohabition. I mean if they did that back then why would we not expect that some few higer up would not get greedy because they see the writing on the wall and start putting a nest egg away before the shit hits the fan.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    I would think the IRS would be very good at reading signs to know what to look for before they start an investigation.

    So I'm no expert and only speculate a possiblity that I feel rather deeply might happen.

  • Gill
    Gill

    I know of an elder who was and still is, very well known around where I live. He and his wife were both full time pioneers but had a small shop. When their business hit hard time, he liberated some of the contributions from the congregation regularly for several years to help themselves out. He was also in charge of the accounts at his KH and at Circuit and District Conventions.

    He was found out when he started to get greedy. He was not reported to the police but he lost his priviliges for about two years. Last I heard he was back to being an elder and giving talks at assemblys. So, it does happen. Though he's the only case I've heard of.

  • metatron
    metatron

    Lots of brothers cheat on their taxes - Bethel included. The Society used to violate some laws regarding capital transfers

    in some nations - but I don't know about the present situation with this.

    metatron

  • toreador
    toreador

    I only found out about the "vow of poverty" about 3 years ago and I was in for many many years.

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    SOOOH-

    The Bethel volunteers turn over their pension benefits and super annuation, yet when they leave because too ill or old the Society keeps those pension benefirs to pay for the FDS holidays salmon fishing in Alaska and fancy retirement homes for themselves in NJ?

    Are they not beating the fellow slaves? Doesn't their behavior show them as saying ( in their hearts not to anyone else ) "My master is delaying"?

    HB

  • HappyDad
    HappyDad

    AlanF said...............

    they can't report the donations to the IRS as income -- otherwise they'd lose their tax status and be viewed by the IRS as paid clergy

    I recall an elders meeting after an assembly program way back when.........We were told that if we give money to a CO or DO and tell them ...."Here is a small gift to help you out.".......then they were obligated to count it as income.

    But.........if we told them...."Do with this as you see fit.".....then for some reason that escapes me, It doesn't have to be reported. Does any ex elder here remember anything about this?

    HappyDad

    P.S. Back in the early 1980's we had a CO....Harry M. who encouraged us to deduct our expenses whether they be automobile expenses such as mileage, travel expenses for conventions, etc., because we were ministers and did this work as volunteers at our own expense. So for several years I made all of these deductions on my tax return.

  • Gill
    Gill

    Then again, they could do as my very 'superior spiritually' inlaws. Just don't tell. They both have state and private pensions. Then mum in law also has several 'small jobs' on the go . She accepts only cash in hand payments for these jobs and keeps the money in the house safely squirrelled away. Their financial recommendation a couple of yours ago to us 'unspiritual' members of the family? - 'You don't have to tell the tax man everything' - laughing. They also plead poverty to have council tax rebates.

    So, while we 'unspirtual weak ones' quietly pay ALL our taxes, we leave the benefits of being 'spiritually strong' to our superior Jehovah's Witness relatives!

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