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IP_SEC

You see this from time to time that the society will quote a reference or commentator with out actually giving a reference. The book study tonight has two such statements.

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cl chap. 25 pp. 250-251 "The Tender Compassion of Our God" ***

One reference work explains that the verb ra·cham´ "expresses a deep and tender feeling of compassion, such as is aroused by the sight of weakness or suffering in those that are dear to us or need our help."

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cl chap. 25 p. 251 "The Tender Compassion of Our God" ***

Little wonder that one commentator said of Isaiah 49:15: "This is one of the strongest, if not the strongest expression of God?s love in the Old Testament."

Yet they go on to quote a long dead philosopher and give reference to his name, Seneca. I looked up the racham in Strongs and they didnt quote Strongs. Is it right to quote works without giving referece? Not just a dub thing, I mean would any work be taken seriously if they did this.

Their reference to racham was valid so why not give the authority for the definition?

pissed IPSec

stevenyc

IP_Sec

I think they get the first quote from here:

Robert Girdlestone, Synonyms of the Old Testament (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1897)

Contemporary stuff eh!

Steve.

IP_SEC

OMG lol here is the product discription for the book.

Explore meanings of key terms form the Old Testament with Girdlestone's Synonyms of the Old Testament. This classic reference tool provides accurate, thorough definitions and information to enhance any word study.

? Designed to be used by those who understand little or no Hebrew
? Covers 27 major categories and almost 300 subjects
? Numerically coded to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible for ease of use
? Indexed by Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek words, scripture references and subjects
? An essential resource for those seeking to increase their understanding of the Old Testament

Welp I glad the slave has an authority to look to for hebrew lexicology.

Sheesh

the_classicist

Not just a dub thing, I mean would any work be taken seriously if they did this.

No academic would take such a work seriously. Ever notice how they don't really properly reference things except for their own works? It always pissed the hell out of me.

AK - Jeff

*** cl chap. 25 pp. 250-251 "The Tender Compassion of Our God" ***

One reference work explains that the verb ra·cham´ "expresses a deep and tender feeling of compassion, such as is aroused by the sight of weakness or suffering in those that are dear to us or need our help."

IP SEC - Are they implying in these portions of the study that this is the attitude that Jw's have in imitation of Jehovah? I think we all know better than that....

Jeff

IP_SEC

Naw this study was strictly speaking of god's compassion. Chapt 30 is a sentence by sentence discussion of 1 cor 13:4-8 on how we should imitate god's love.

stevenyc

IP_Sec

LMHO ROTF - Discovering "the truth" hidden in references - Priceless!

? Designed to be used by those who understand little or no Hebrew? Covers 27 major categories and almost 300 subjects
? Numerically coded to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible for ease of use
? Indexed by Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek words, scripture references and subjects
? An essential resource for those seeking to increase their understanding of the Old Testament

I know its old hat stuff on this site, but for those who don't yet know where the NWT comes from, here it is:

During a court trial in Glasgow, Scotland in 1954, Franz was asked by the Government lawyer just who the translators were. Franz replied under oath: "That is an absolute secret. It will never be revealed now or even after death." Only someone with something to hide would be so intent on secrecy. He was asked: "What happens if somebody submits a translation. Does the committee examine it? Mr. Franz: No. I give it my 0.K., then the President, Mr. N. H. Knorr, has the last word." He was further asked to explain how "translations and interpretations of the Bible were made." Franz replied that they emanated from God: "passed to the Holy Spirit who, invisible, communicates with Jehovah's Witnesses - and the publicity department." Which is Franz.

When asked in a Scotland courtroom if he could translate Genesis 2:4 into Hebrew, Franz replied that he could not.

Later, the information on who put together the New World Translation came out.
The people responsible are Nathan Knorr, Albert Schroeder, George Gangas, Fred Franz, M. Henschel.

Fred Franz: 2 Credit Hours Bible Greek, 21 Credit Hours Classical Greek, University of Cincinnati, Dropped out junior year.

Everyone else had a high school education.

Steve

bavman

they never make up a bibliography like they use to either. they don't seem to want anyone checking up on their references.

AK - Jeff

bavman -

they don't want anyone checking on the references because someone might read the context and find how far from the actual point they took it -

They have been called to task by some for doing that - but of course the r&f never hear of it

Jeff

new light

This was one of the things that made me start to doubt. They take things out of context and completely twist the original meaning. How could "God's channel" be so blatantly dishonest?

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