1914 Generation...

Tuesday

Forgive me I haven't been on the board in a bit, but what is the current train of thought on the 1914 generation never dying. Is the belief finally dead and they're now picking something else? Last I checked it was a broader sense of the word, like Napolean's generation was like anyone from the 1800's or something. Is it still this way? Anyone from the 20th century will be applicable...lol, now that's broad.

IP_SEC

Gone completly is the idea of the 1914 generation and the timing of the end.

The word generation acording to the WTS is just a generic term used to discribe all of the wicked people who will be destroyed when the end comes

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w95 11/1 pp. 14-15 Saved From a "Wicked Generation" ***

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Generation" Identified

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What, then, is the "generation" so frequently referred to by Jesus in the presence of his disciples? What did they understand by his words: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur"? Surely, Jesus was not departing from his established use of the term "this generation," which he consistently applied to the contemporary masses with their "blind guides" who together made up the Jewish nation. (Matthew 15:14) "This generation" experienced all the distress foretold by Jesus and then passed away in an unequaled "great tribulation" on Jerusalem.?Matthew 24:21, 34.

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In the first century, Jehovah was judging the Jewish people. Repentant ones, who came to exercise faith in Jehovah?s merciful provision through Christ, were saved out of that "great tribulation." True to Jesus? words, all things prophesied occurred, and then the "heaven and earth" of the Jewish system of things?the entire nation, with its religious leaders and wicked society of people?passed away. Jehovah had executed judgment!?Matthew 24:35; compare 2 Peter 3:7.

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Those Jews who had paid attention to Jesus? prophetic words realized that their salvation depended, not on trying to calculate the length of a "generation" or of some dated "times or seasons," but on keeping separate from the evil contemporary generation and zealously doing God?s will. Though the final words of Jesus? prophecy apply to the major fulfillment in our day, first-century Jewish Christians also had to heed the admonition: "Keep awake, then, all the time making supplication that you may succeed in escaping all these things that are destined to occur, and in standing before the Son of man."?Luke 21:32-36; Acts 1:6-8.

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Today, "the great day of Jehovah . . . is near, and there is a hurrying of it very much." (Zephaniah 1:14-18; Isaiah 13:9, 13) Suddenly, at Jehovah?s own predetermined "day and hour," his fury will be unleashed upon the world?s religious, political, and commercial elements, together with the wayward people who make up this contemporary "wicked and adulterous generation." (Matthew 12:39; 24:36; Revelation 7:1-3, 9, 14) How may you get saved out of "the great tribulation"? Our next article will answer and tell of the grand hope for the future.

Bluegrass Tom

Tuesday:

The new understanding, to state it briefly is that they have abandoned the idea that the last generation would be 70-80 years in duration past 1914. This would have brought them to 1994 at the latest, and obviously the end hasn't come. They then came out with a WT Article a year later that provides "new light" that the generation is not an actual generation of people, but a generation of "contemperaneous people". This means people that are alive at the same approximate time in history with possibly greatly overlapping life spans. I.e. The Colonization of New World (1492-1700), The settling of the west (1820-1900), Feudal Europe (800-1500), the Cold War (1948-1996), etc. This can embrace a block of time of any duration.

TheEdge

contemperaneous people

you mean they still would have had to be BORN in 1914? the overlapping lifespan thing is a bit vague to me.....

IP_SEC

*** w95 11/1 pp. 14-15 Saved From a "Wicked Generation" ***
"This Generation" Identified
18 What, then, is the "generation" so frequently referred to by Jesus in the presence of his disciples? What did they understand by his words: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur"? Surely, Jesus was not departing from his established use of the term "this generation," which he consistently applied to the contemporary masses with their "blind guides" who together made up the Jewish nation. (Matthew 15:14) "This generation" experienced all the distress foretold by Jesus and then passed away in an unequaled "great tribulation" on Jerusalem.?Matthew 24:21, 34

According to the WTS, Jesus wasn?t using the term 'generation' in the sense that we normally would. It was not referring to the specific year(s) of anyone?s birth or genealogical ascendancy. It was merely a generic (nonspecific) term used to describe (quote) contemporary masses with their "blind guides" who together made up the Jewish nation. In other words Jesus was saying according to the WTS: "See all of these evil wicked people? (Regardless of the year of their birth) They are going to experience a great trib."

Therefore, say the trib started tomorrow. A worldly baby born today would be part of 'this generation'. So would the parents. So would the worldly grandparents if they were alive when the trib starts. So would the worldly ggrandparents if they were alive when the trib starts. (see the greatly overlapping lifespans?)

On the other hand, a witness would not be considered part of 'this generation' because it only applies to wicked people living when the great trib starts, regardless of when they were born.

I know, its stupid, but it makes better sense than the ridiculous "generation that saw 1914" thingy.

IPSec

TheEdge

So anything about the ''Generation of 1914'' is now obsolete?

IP_SEC

Aye! The gen of 1914 is just like any other gen throughout history. I believe this is a worse false proph than 1975. This was stated with more certainty and for a longer time than 1975 was.

And just ask a witness whose come in since 1995 about the gen of 1914. They never heard of it, eyes glaze over.

Ask someone who left before 1995. If they havent kept up the the chariot, they still think the 1914 gen is what dubs believe. Its astounding really.

prophecor

So how do they answer charges as to their previous statements " Millions Now Living Will Never Die. " ?

TheEdge

If they havent kept up the the chariot, they still think the 1914 gen is what dubs believe.

That'll be me then........

how on EARTH do they get away with it? Half the literature must be null and void now......wait, did I say HALF?

IP_SEC

how on EARTH do they get away with it? Half the literature must be null and void now......wait, did I say HALF?

Mind control. I remember how happy I was when the new light on 'this generation' came out because finally they almost made sense out of a nonsense prophecy.

I shocked a small group before the meeting for field service the other day.

I broke out the PLtPR & LEitFotSoG books and showed it to the young people there. At first they were like 'Oh cool, Wow, we never saw these books before.' Then their jaws dropped when I said: "well thats good you never saw them because we dont believe half of what's in them anymore" Some of the older ones butt's squirmed around in their seat after that. It was kind of a tense moment, full of cognetive dissonance.

So if you are under mind control you just kind of say "well we're a progressive org, you expect things to change" Then go about life as if all is well.

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