by hubert 18 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
It's not even so much that they change things, it's what they don't even tell you to begin with.
They did teach me about the blood issue; however, in the mid 70's it was also a DF offense to have an organ transplant. They likened this to cannibalism at the time I believe. I did not know this until several years after I was baptized. Of course, several years later they reversed themselves!
Stilla, were you taught/told this in Bible study, before you were baptized?
I was. had it drilled into my head, as one of the reasons we could know the "new system" was so near. all the "annointed" that were in that original congo'. were past there 80's
The Generation of 1914 - I was taught the understanding prior to the 1994 change in the Awake - I thought the generation born before 1914 would not die off - before the big A
I hadn't realised this prophesy had changed....doesn't that make a lot of old WT literature obsolete?
QUESTION : Why is Hubert's and Stilla's IP the same?
welcome slick..............................
have you been told that the jws really 'love' people...........that they live in a spiritual paradise...............don't believe it!!!!!!!
once you get btzd and in the borg the love will stop and the pedophiles will come out.
THERE IS NO UNCONDITIONAL AND ONGOING LOVE AND IT IS CERTAINLY NOT A SPIRITUAL PARADISE...............children will get sexually abused (like mine) and you will be beaten up if you speak about it.
welcome again and cheers............bliss
How about this one, one that personally got my goat after. When I was studying I always alluded that the bible was wrote for every person and that its messaged was individually addressed to everyone. After im hooked in I find out that the bible isnt really for me but it was intended for the 144,000, a statement i could never accept and never did accept. This was one view of theirs i always discarded personally.
Another thing I was not told about was the level of control that existed over your life by a totallitarian society. I found that out too soon enough after dipping in the drink. I was always led to believe that JWs were pioneers of bible freedom and then I find out thier actually masters lording it over others faith.
Love was supposed to be the identifying mark also and I seen a clear lack of evidence of unconditional love within the congregation. Of course when your new they put on a mask of lovebombing and a picture that all is perfect within the confides of the watchtower. Then I find out after its love is really conditioned only because they are forced to put forward and outward appearance of unity. I have never been a member of another church and would probably expect similar finds too but, the people in the JW religion always were clicky, gossiping, and some just downright rude and intolerable to others.
And probably the biggest one for me was not being told about all the failed phrophecy and prediction before hand. I was led to believe that the witnesses remained virtually unchanged in doctrine since their beginning. All of this should have been layed on the table and exposed for a fair and complete analysis of whether or not they were what they said they were. They were quick to expose the faults of other religions but so desperatly attempted to seal over, silence, and whitewash all their past and current shortcomings.
Ticker
My mum was taught the old sheep and goats doctrine and the old generation doctrine. I remember the meeting where we learned of the change - first time I realised "Faithful and Discreet Slave" meant actual people!
QUESTION : Why is Hubert's and Stilla's IP the same?
Yeah, that's weird, I noticed that in this thread too. It isn't in the initial post though.
Hi Hubert,
When I was baptized in '72, the org was (or seemed to be) very different. We had a LOT of planned get-togethers, friends dropping by for coffee, kids having sleepovers, we played cards, went bowling, and enjoyed one another.........we were like a real family! There was a closeness and a strong feeling of love and caring.
As the years went by, this gradually fell by the wayside, and it got down to maybe to two get-togethers a year. It began to get complicated. It seemed to me that there were so many changes and the "dont's" that were being implemented began to feel stifling.
The WT in '81 that changed our lives in a million ways (how the WTS now expected JWs to treat DFed ones) was a bomb dropped on MY family, and it divided us in ways that have hurt us and demolished what was left of us AS a family.
THEN, the baptism questions (1985) took on an entirely different meaning than what I believed and was dedicated to. BIG change, as far as I was concerned.
The gatherings were scaled down to "small" get-togethers (since when would anyone have to COUNT how many people they wanted to invite to their own home?) But the WTS had its rules and JWs must obey or take a chance of being ratted on. (THIS is a religion???)
The "love" of the greater number HAS indeed, grown cold. The WTS has only itself to blame with telling adults HOW to live, WHERE they can go, and that they must be continually told that they aren't doing enough and not pleasing God if they don't knock themselves out in FS.
The only information about the WTS is what I see on here......and the audacity of the Org in telling the JWs that they cannot go out for lunch at the assemblies---just blew my mind. Of course, they didn't SAY they couldn't---it was a "suggestion" (yeah, right) but the whole idea was WAY beyond the bounds of anything "religious".
Don't you wonder WHAT they'll come up with next.....as food from God? I do.
Annie.........who wanted to tell Hubert that I was baptized at the Narragansett Racetrack in RI!
Sunspot, That was cool, finding out you got baptized at the Narragansett race track. That's all gone. I think it's all condo's in there now. I used to go there when they had big flea markets inside the building.
Well, I can certainly start making my list, thanks to all of you who responded. I want to compare what my daughter is being taught now, as to what will be changed after she gets baptized. Maybe that will wake her up. Nothing else does.
So, Simon, why IS my ip the same as stillajwexelder?
edited to add....Well, I guess it's been changed. Thanks.
Hubert
The only thing I can think of.....
Before I was baptized it was what I wanted(thought I wanted)
After I was baptized it was what I didn't want(knew I didn't)
Brooke
