Help me prove to my bf that defellowshipping happens

by MM090503 39 Replies latest social relationships

  • Buster
    Buster

    The good news is that if he doesn't yet have the lowdown on disfellowshipping, then he sure as hell hasn't gotten in too deeply yet.

    Like some others have said, just ask some Witnesses. Not only do they disfellowship anyone that breaks their little man-made rules. But they are damn proud of it! They'll tell you that it is one of the distinctive facets of their little cult. Its how they keep the congregation clean. More than likely, they'll have some little scripture snipppet ready to fire off, 'Mathew chapter this, in harmony with Romans verse that.'

    Fast forward: If you two stay together and have kids, and they don't buy into the lunacy, then when they grow up, and are no longer dependant, The Cult will try to get you to cut all non-emergency ties with your own kids. Ain't that a kick in the a$$?

  • AlmostAtheist
    AlmostAtheist

    (((CZAR)))

    I know you needed it then, and I know you don't so much need it now, but reading your story just moves me to tears. Bastards, I don't know how I could have ever let them tell me to "shun" somebody. To you and to anyone I ever shunned, I offer my deepest most heartfelt apology.

    Dave

  • Jim_TX
    Jim_TX

    Ummm... the _best_ way to 'prove' it - is to have him get baptized - then commit some infraction that is considered a DFing offense - and he'll soon _know_ it's real, when it happens to him.

    Regards,

    Jim TX

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    Like some others have said, just ask some Witnesses. Not only do they disfellowship anyone that breaks their little man-made rules. But they are damn proud of it! They'll tell you that it is one of the distinctive facets of their little cult. Its how they keep the congregation clean. More than likely, they'll have some little scripture snipppet ready to fire off, 'Mathew chapter this, in harmony with Romans verse that.'

    Fast forward: If you two stay together and have kids, and they don't buy into the lunacy, then when they grow up, and are no longer dependant, The Cult will try to get you to cut all non-emergency ties with your own kids. Ain't that a kick in the a$$?

    Buster, you have described the Jehovah's Witnesses so accurately.

    Tell your BF to get baptized and then decide that the doctrines of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, who falsley claim to be the one channel God is using to communicate with mankind, are 100% against Christ and he wants out to be free to worship in the manner that Jesus taught. Just hope that he didn't convert you or any children you may have into the organisation and you decide to stay in the cult. Your life will be total hell. Abusive treatment from all the congregation elders and members because your husband rejected Jehovah and Jesus and since they can't turn on him because they will be disfellowshipped if seen talking to him because he is an apostate and he is hated worse than anyone on earth they will turn on you and your children. If you are thoroughly brainwashed you will feel guilt, shame and unworthy of their love because you are 'weak' due to your relationship with him. I left the Jehovah's Witnesses after almost 15 years of dedicated service in various positions within the organisation because I finally saw the extreme lack of Christian love, unscriptural doctrines and blasphemous practices such as the yearly ritual they label 'the memorial'. My wife and I divorced before I officially disassociated myself due mainly to the social shunning she recieved because I was not attending meetings. When I disassociated myself the 'loving organisation' influenced her so much that she is currently being prosecuted for contempt of court regarding my rights to visitation and legal rights afforded to me by the state I live in to take my child to my place of worship where unconditional Christian love is displayed to all no matter social status, wealth, education or level of individual spiritual maturity. Her 'loving elders' agreed for me to meet him at the KH but since our divorce was judged unscriptural and I am an outspoken cult apologetic helping others to break free from the iron grip the Jehovah's Witnesses have on innocent victims they decided that it would not look good for me to be on their property. They were really afraid that I might be able to influence their 'flock' to stop putting their faith and allegiance in the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses and turn instead to putting faith in Jesus as the bible teaches. If your BF persists in associating with them and you stay loyal to him you are about to take the longest ride of your life down a road full of grief, misery, pain, heartbreak and suffering. He is also risking his chance for everlasting life if he supports their blasphemy. The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are guilty of deliberate atrocious crimes against humanity by their doctrines regarding medical treatment and their fear and hatred of all former JW's who may be inclined to expose them for what they are.

  • eljefe
    eljefe

    Elsewhere's post says it all. Just to clarify his post, it is from a monthly JW-only publication called Our Kingdom Ministry. This was an article that was directly scanned from it.

    Here is another site that shows verbatim the words of the Watchtower on the subject (Link).

  • czarofmischief
    czarofmischief
    (((CZAR)))

    I know you needed it then, and I know you don't so much need it now, but reading your story just moves me to tears. Bastards, I don't know how I could have ever let them tell me to "shun" somebody. To you and to anyone I ever shunned, I offer my deepest most heartfelt apology.

    Well, a hug is always nice...

    Remember, I shunned others in my own time. It's all good. I harbor no resentment towards anyone except those who formulated the policy to begin with.

    CZAR

  • clementine
    clementine

    a friend of mine has been disfellowshipped because she was with a world-man.. she had to leave him and was reinstate a few months later... but disfellowshipping really is a reality, and a harsh one!!

  • willyloman
    willyloman
    My latest situation is that he does not believe disfellowshipping happens within the JW's.

    MM: no offense, sweetheart, but this is a bit like asking if members of the Catholic Church use the sign of the cross.

    Disfellowshipping is the identifying mark of Jehovah's Witnesses; they are one of just a very few religions that still practice this concept, and might be the only ones who use the term "disfellowship" (as opposed to "excommunication"). JWs are very proud of the fact that they disfellowship what they call "those who are unrepentant wrong-doers." They do this, they say, "to keep the congregation clean."

    The Watchtower has admitted in print (someone perhaps can post a reference) that "thousands" of JWs are disfellowshipped every year.

    My own experience is that hardly a year goes by that someone in the local congregation doesn't get DF'd. And there are 90,000+ congregations! They DF people who haven't really done anything heinous, because their "judicial system" is flawed (it's a kangaroo court where the accused has no rights). They DF children. They DF people for no reason other than they can't force themselves to cry on cue.

    It has well been said that JWs are the only religion that shoots its wounded.

    The more you learn about this vile practice, the more appalled you (and hopefully your BF) will become.

  • Golf
    Golf

    How about if I give you my phone number, address and have him contact me?

    Guest77

  • MM090503
    MM090503

    Thank you,

    Everyone has been incredabely awesome with their postings. I will get my bf to see this posts on Sundays. I'm sorry you guys had to go through something like this. Thank you so much, I really apperciate your postings.

    Meg

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