Blood Transfusions Kill Patients, Say Doctors (page 2)

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Dr. Paul Hebert and his colleagues from the University of Ottawa say in the New England Journal of Medicine: "Our findings indicate that the use of a threshold...as low as 7 grams of hemoglobin per deciliter...was at least as effective as and possibly superior to a liberal transfusion strategy...in critically ill patients."
It is well-known that giving too much blood or other infusions can cause heart attacks or water on the lungs because of the effort required to pump the extra liquid around the body. But the researchers found these factors could not explain the differences they found.

Ahhhh.... so it is improper administration of blood that causes problems, not the blood itself.

Since you are using this article to state your position, does this mean that you will accept properly administered blood?

The material you cite provides timely warning against inappropriate application of blood transfusion. On the other hand, the material you cite underscores blood transfusion as a viable medical therapeutic with it is appropriately applied. Thanks for the confirmation!

Marvin Shilmer

MerryMagdalene

Yay! A source, a quote! Well done!.

Notice, though, that the article is primarily about the effects of giving more blood compared with giving less blood in transfusions, not NO blood...

Lots of medical procedures carry risks. The important thing is that it should be left up to the adult individual, in conjunction with their doctor, to decide what treatment they want and what risks they are willing to take, WITHOUT pressure from others.

~Merry

IP_SEC

Mr JW Ben,

By reading your profile and some of your posts, I kind of see you as a person who realizes there is trouble in dub land. You were an MS for 10 years and asked to step down? Because you are a open free thinker? You dont let other people think for you, do you?

Why do you continue to be conflicted? You are a terrible apologist, but are sincere. Come over to the dark side, you can be a closet apostate. We wont hold that against you.

If my view of you situation is not accurate lemme know.

IPSec

Poztate

The unexpected finding, from a study of more than 800 critically ill
patients,will deliver a serious blow to the idea of accident victims being
stretchered into a hospital with a bag of life-giving blood suspended above them.

Where did this idea come from?? Blood is only given after carefully checking blood types. NO ACCIDENT VICTIM has ever been taken into hospital with a blood IV.

Transfusion is a serious business. I would only take one if I thought it was medically necessary and gave me the BEST options to preserve my life. Blood can kill me..blood can save me..BUT the option should always be mine. The WT takes that away from me and uses the club of DA'ing to enforce their rules.

Years ago they would use articles like yours to prove their point. As the articles proved to be poorly thought out or false they fell back on the last line of defence..god told us not to take blood.

Now many blood products are approved including such blood products as polyheme and hemopure (cows blood).This is one of the most f**ked up doctrines that the WT supports so don't look for much approval around here.

Not from me anyways..have a nice day...

TonyT

Why do dubs spend so much effort exaggerating the health risks rather than sticking to the core of their blood transfusion prohibition which an extremely rigid and inconsistent interpretation of Old Testament scripture. If a dub in preparation for surgery, avoided these critical health risks by banking his own blood, and had a transfusion he would still be disfellowshipped.

pepheuga

jwben,

answer this http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/85664/1.ashx you big coward!

pepheuga

Will Power

Why don't Jews refuse blood because of their own scriptures that the WT quotes?

will

the_classicist

Its like what Jesus argued about the sabbath.

On a sabbath, while he was going through the grainfields, his disciples plucked and ate some heads of grain, rubbing them in their hands. But some of the Pharisees said, "Why are you doing what is not lawful to do on the sabbath?" And Jesus answered, "Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him: how he entered the house of God, and took and ate the bread of the Presence, which it is not lawful for any but the priests to eat, and also gave it to those with him?" And he said to them, "The Son of man is lord of the sabbath." (Luke 6: 1-5, RSV)

If you can't see the connection between this and blood transfusions, then you are as blind as those leading you.

jeanniebeanz

What's yer' point there, buddy? Yer not makin' a hellova lot a sense...

J

(I'm usin' my silly voice in hopes that he won't be intimidated and actually answer the question.)

Blood Transfusions Kill Patients, Say Doctors

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