The New System...Waiting on Jehovah.... and Acceptance

by ScoobySnax 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • ScoobySnax
    ScoobySnax

    I was sitting in the garden having a beer with my dad this afternoon, it was a beautiful warm Spring day, and we chatted away .......it's a good thing, my dad and me haven't always got on. I think he thinks I'm not the son he held a 3 day party for when I was born, at least I didn't turn out like he'd hoped. You see he's a mans man. I was supposed to have a blonde on my arm and 3 kids.......well it didn't happen, being gay sort of messes up your parents expectations a bit.........I'm so pleased my brother came along, and provided him with 2 kids by 2 different women and all at the age of 22// but that another story.

    Anyway I came in from the garden to grab another beer, and mum was all tearful. Whats up? I said to her, she said that she'd been watching us from the kitchen window, and despite feeling like she'd gotten over his death, she had spent 20 minutes just staring through the window at me, and I looked just like her dad (my grandad) when he was young, a double she said. It had bought it all back to her. She lost him in 2003, her dad, my grandad. I think it had brought all the memories back to her. I love my mum more than life, so I sat down and we talked, she said that at least when he took himself to bed that day and never woke up, the next thing he would have remembered would be in the resurection (sp) I hugged her and told her that she shouldn't cry, because I'm sure Grandad would be safe in Jehovah's memory. We had a good chat, and even managed to have a laugh when I reminded her that if Grandad had seen her getting into this state, he'd have said "You silly mare.....get yourself together"!

    It made me think for them both, and about my understanding of things. I really hope that the New System will come and someone I love as much as my mum gets to see her dad again, I don't think I'll be there, but I think this is the hardest thing of all, standing on the periphery with a fence post up your arse if u like, but still hoping that people as good as my mum get to get all that they hope for. She wants her dad.

    In another way, I want mine too.

    Things are so much better now, of that I am grateful. If there is a coming New System, I just hope that her wish is fulfilled. I remember a book when I was a kid "Is this Life all there Is" I hope not.........So much finishes in this life without a proper conclusion.

    I give full kudos to those who can just accept that that is it. I can't, I'm trying.

    Scoob

  • czarofmischief
    czarofmischief

    I can't accept that either. If so; well then, nada para los que preguntar nada.

    non in solo pane vivit homo

    CZAR

  • GetBusyLiving
    GetBusyLiving

    Only after we let go of everything are we free to do anything - Tyler Durdon

    GBL

  • Flash
    Flash
    It made me think for them both, and about my understanding of things. I really hope that the New System will come and someone I love as much as my mum gets to see her dad again, I don't think I'll be there, but I think this is the hardest thing of all, standing on the periphery with a fence post up your arse if u like, but still hoping that people as good as my mum get to get all that they hope for. She wants her dad...

    I believe it will and in our lifetime too. Life is full of choices Scoob. You know, if you choose to be there you can. If you choose not to be there, then someday in the New System your mother will be full of tears talking with her father about you...It's something to think about.

  • Buster
    Buster

    Scoob,

    I remember in my teen years, I had something of that sort of a conversation with my dad. You see, he had lost his mother, my grandmother, not too much prior. I remember telling him ... and this is my sorriest moment as a JW ... that it was good that she was dead. It was good that she now had the resurrection hope. He now had a chance to see her again if he joined our little cult. Yup, that logic boiled down to, 'she's better off dead.' I shake my head in shame, almost 30 years later.

    - Cliff

  • wednesday
    wednesday

    I hope that there is something after our earthly life. I of course believed just like all other jws that it would be an earthly hope. Now I don't know. It does not matter, really, as long as it is not all over when we physically die.I do believe our memory, spirit, is with God when we pass. What He does with it, I do not know.

  • prophecor
    prophecor

    Scooby, that is such a great thing for you to wish for, the hope that regardless for what happens to you in this life, that in the next one, your mother might find all the joy, peace and happiness that she can acquire, and life without end, at last. Don't dream it's over. Only Jehovah can read hearts and minds, I believe him to be just a little bigger than what we have been lead to believe by the WTBTS. They've got a lot of things right about the bible, I'll grant them that much, but I'll never believe they have the whole story straight. God is so much larger, I believe, than a Kingdom Hall, than a Mosque, than a cathedral, than a Buhddist temple. It's all too much to contain. Has your life given evidence that despite your position, that God continues to watch out for you, to watch over you? I still believe in the New World, and I too believe it's coming soon. I, like you, am hoping and praying that somehow my mom will be able to be blessed of God in that new system, she's 75 tomorrow, Monday and she's no Jehovah's Witness, but I no longer believe that getting into the new world is incumbent upon ones being a Jehovah's Witness, either. Jehovah has to be bigger than that. We won't know, however, until we see it come to fruition, or when we close our eyes for that final time, hoping that Jehovah or Whoever he may prefer to be called, wonderfully wakes us up from sleep. I feel it to be like the quote from the movie Contact, " If we are the only ones in the universe, seems like a lot of wasted space " Similarly, I feel the same way about the New World and this life. If its not for us to have life everlasting on this beautiful planet, seems like a lot of wasted time, ours and God's. Mostly ours though!!!

  • seven006
    seven006

    ***I can't, I'm trying.***

    Scoob,

    Just trying is a start.

    Take care,

    Dave

  • avishai
    avishai
    It made me think for them both, and about my understanding of things. I really hope that the New System will come and someone I love as much as my mum gets to see her dad again, I don't think I'll be there, but I think this is the hardest thing of all, standing on the periphery with a fence post up your arse if u like, but still hoping that people as good as my mum get to get all that they hope for. She wants her dad

    I want my dad too, scoob. Mine died when I was 13.

    But not on the terms of a biblegod who killed him the way he did. Not on the terms of a biblegod that gives us horribly deformed children who live their entire lives in exruciating screaming pain. Go see the children in asylums that "the rest of us" never see. The whole "It's gods will" thing goes right out the window.

    God cannot be omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent. It's not possible.

    BUT.... If there is a loving god, scoob, maybe one who is'nt omnipotent, he's not gonna be mad at you for being gay, etc. It's going to be for "Going out of your way to hurt others" I think that's kinda what Jesus said, anyway. You seem like a decent guy, scoob, I would'nt worry too much about it.

  • Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice.
    Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice.

    brother booze,

    So, we are in the last hour. Before closing? Better order another round of drinks then.

    I see your name is bob - Are you sure it's not Bob downandsuckit?

    cheeses. feeling charitable.

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