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Lambchop

This is a lot of typing to do twice

My thought is yes and no. The WBTS is used by God to get his name/word out into the world like he used Moses & the tribe of Israel; not like he used Pharaoh.

God "raised you (Pharaoh) up" or "let you (Pharaoh) remain" to not only demonstrate his power personally to Pharaoh and his onlookers, but to declare his name in all the earth. That's the whole theme of the Bible - the santification of his name and the vindication of his sovereignty. So I don't go off into a long tangent here is a brief explanation of that last sentence.

When you read the account of Eden (Gen 2:7-3:24) you're reading of how by means of their rebellion along with the Devil broght reproach on God's name. (Like with a child rebels and breaks the law and ends up in trouble, it brings reproach on or makes their parents "name" look bad. Their rebellion was based on Satan's claim that God was withholding something from them & lying to them (Gen 3:1-5) and had no right to tell them what to do (just like kids ). Thus, questioning God's sovereignty or right to rule.

Pharaoh also questioned God's right to rule at Exodus 5:2. So God made an example of him, to show his power and make his name known throughout the earth so the question wouldn't need to be asked again. The WBTS and JW's don't question God's authority but instead participate in a "worldwide Bible educational work," according to their website www.watchtower.org with the goal of bringing people closer to God.

Elsewhere

I always thought it was a little strange to name a children's lamb character after a piece of lamb meat.

kls

to their website www.watchtower.org with the goal of bringing people closer to Godaccording .

Their God and their teachings and only their way of thinking.

Sorry Lambchop but i don't see it that way.

Lambchop

I agree with Michelle on Ba'al not being Jehovah.

450 Ba'al prophets were put to death at 1 Kings 18:18-40 when defeated by Jehovah's prophet Elijah in a test of power between the two Gods. If Ba'al were Jehovah, why would his prophets be put to death?

myelaine

Lambchop,

Elsewhere didn't say that Jehovah was Ba'al. He said that Jehovah CALLED Himself Ba'al. Which I don't see in the Bible, Elsewhere does however see this phrase in the scripture in question. It is weird to name a pet after a cut of meat. With the exception of T-Bone, I might name a dog that!

michelle

Lambchop

In that case let me restate:

I too have yet to see in the Bible where God calls himself Ba'al like it is his name. The Hebrew word Ba'al means Owner, or Master. At times Jehovah was referred to as Ba'al in that sense, but Israel may have wrongly associated Jehovah with Ba'al (or Hab.Ba'al as the actual God is referred to in Hebrew) in their false worship of this fertility God. When you read the context of the verse, always a good idea when reading the Bible, Hosea is prophecying of a time when the name Ba'al and it's association with the pagan God would never pass the lips of the Israelites again. Not God associating himself with that pagan God.

Clear enough?

talesin

Welcome to the board, Lambchop!

Are you a JW? I don't know if you noticed, but many of us are apostates.

onacruse

Michelle:

First, I must humbly apologize for not responding to your p/m's as fully as I could have, and (in the not so distant past), would have been fully anxious to so do.

As a compensation, I would like to offer a few thoughts and experiences, drawn from my own 4 decade deeply dedicated sojourn through Christian theology:

I would suggest that you consider, perhaps just for a moment, that the Bible is not the written Word of God.

That Jesus Christ is nothing other than an imaginary person, built up to superhuman proportions by the psychological needs of us finite human beings...almost like a compensation reaction.

That, perhaps, just perhaps, there is no purpose of life, per se, other than mere individual survival.

Just a few thoughts, and offered very respectfully,

Craig

myelaine

Regarding my thoughts on the WTBTS,

I would like to draw your attention to Revelation 12:13-17.

You men MUST stand up!

The Watchtower IS a beacon for a peculiar people......" Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. but the woman was given two wings of a great eagle,(ch4:7) that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she might be nourished for a time and times and half a time,(one hundred and twenty-five years) from the presence of the serpent. So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood of water after the woman.(the constant barrage of "food that brainwashes Gods people), that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. But the earth helped the woman, and the earth swallowed up the flood which the dragon spewed out of his mouth. And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring,(YOU guys) who keep the commandments of God and have the testemony of Jesus Christ."

Revelation 18:4

And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.

michelle

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