Jesus Completely Fullfilled the 70th Week

by Ianone 45 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  myelaine

  just a note.......... Dan 11:7-8 seems to picture Rev 13:11-12

  Dan 11:7 but from a branch of her(harlot)roots one(antichrist) shall arise in his(satan) place......

  Rev 13:11 another beast(antichrist) coming up out of the earth...two horns like a lamb

  Dan 11:8 and he(antichrist) shall carry their gods captive to Egypt, with their princes and....

  Rev13:12 he(antichrist) excercises all the authouirty of the first beast(satan)....causes the earth and all that dwell in it to worship the first beast

  sorry to butt in again, really
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  Ianone

  Daniel uses the phrase "abomination that makes desolate" as if his readers know what the words mean. Should we know? Yes, we should, if we read the Book of Daniel as a whole. In chapter 9, Daniel prays to the Lord. What is first on Daniel's mind? The sins of his people, which lead to the desolation of the land. This could be called "an iniquity that makes desolate" (See NIV Daniel 9:16-17, where "desolate" is mentioned twice.).

  Who exactly has rebelled? Daniel says it is Judah and all Israel (9:7, 11). What was the nature of that iniquity or rebellion? Daniel refers to Moses' curse, which in Deuteronomy 11:26-28 is specifically a result of idolatry. We can confirm this by reading 2 Kings 17, the record of the fall of Israel. This chapter agrees ? idolatry was the major sin. The fall of Judah is described in the last chapter of 2 Kings, and here again the captivity is a result of idolatry (of all the last kings except Josiah). Idolatry is of course the plainest form of rebellion against God. This is what Daniel is concerned about.

  In fact, the abomination of idolatry is possibly the central theme of the book of Daniel ? think of Nebuchadnezzar's dream of a statue, the great gold statue that led to the fiery furnace incident, the command to worship the king that led to the den of lions incident, the pride of the little horn, and so on.

  This idolatry is labeled an abomination in Hosea 9:10 (referring to Numbers 25:1-3). Isaiah also confirms that worshipping false gods is an abomination (Isaiah 41:23-24). The result of this abomination is that Israel will become desolate (Hosea 2:12, translated "destroyed" in the KJV, and Hosea 5:9).
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  myelaine

  Ianone,

  This idolatry is labeled an abomination in Hosea 9:10 (referring to Numbers 25:1-3). Isaiah also confirms that worshipping false gods is an abomination (Isaiah 41:23-24). The result of this abomination is that Israel will become desolate (Hosea 2:12, translated "destroyed" in the KJV, and Hosea 5:9).

  Yes it does.

  Matthew24:15

  Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place...then let those in Judea flee to the mountains......

  michelle
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  Leolaia

  Chapter 11 of Daniel gives a sweeping view of history. I agree, however it seems to also pinpoint the beginning and the end of seventieth week specifically. if not then Dan 12:9 has no value. imo

  The last week is the "time of the end" (which was when the book of Daniel was "unsealed" and entered general circulation) and it concludes sometime around 164 BC with the death of Antiochus. His destruction immediately precedes the appearance of the prince Michael (cf. 11:45-12:1) and the resurrection of the dead, and it is the event that ends Gentile domination over the Jews since the seventy weeks of penance would be completed (ch. 9). The destruction of Antiochus' tyrannical reign is the start of the Messianic era (cf. 2:43-45, 7:26-27). The 70th week starts in 171 BC with the covenant made between Antiochus and the Hellenizers (1 Maccabees 1:10-13; Daniel 11:23), which remained in force for the next 7 years until 164 BC. This was also the year when High Priest Onias III was assassinated, i.e. the cutting-off of the anointed one (Daniel 9:26; compare Daniel 11:22; 2 Maccabees 4:33-35, 1 Enoch 90:8). Then in the "middle of the week", "he will suppress sacrifice and offering, and the desolating abomination will be in their place until the predetermined destruction is poured on the desolator". In 168 BC, the campaign of Apollonius (general of the Syrian army) against Jerusalem began the great tribulation resulting in the slaughter of many faithful Jews and the complete suppression of Jewish religion (cf. 1 Maccabees 1:29; 2 Maccabees 5:24). This is the war likely described in Daniel 9:26. This suppression was to last 3 1/2 years and later in December, the heathen altar was installed in the Temple (= the abomination of desolation), which remained in the Temple until it was removed in 165 BC. The half-week corresponds to the 3 1/2 years of Daniel 7:25, 12:7, the 2,300 half-days (= 3 years 2 months) of 8:14, and the 1,290 days for the cessation of daily offering (12:11) the 1,335 days allotted for the persecution (12:12).

  As for Daniel 12:9, the "unsealing" of the book of Daniel was to occur in the "time of the end", that is, around 164 BC (according to 8:17, 11:35, 40 which pertain to the reign of Antiochus Epiphanes). Before this, the book was to remain "secret" (the unsealing is of the book itself, not its interpretation). This is an internal plot device to explain why no one had seen the book before it appeared on the scene during the Maccabean crisis. The "time of the end" does not refer to any still future time because Daniel has already been around for thousands of years, as everyone knows. Rather, a future "time of the end" would involve a future unsealing of an unknown book, e.g. if Daniel had been lost entirely for millenia but was suddenly rediscovered in an archaeological expedition sometime in the future.
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  Ianone

  indeedy doo myelaine :)
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  Ianone

  The Dispen-satan-alists take the 70th week, seperate it from the first 69, (Gap Theology) and say that the antichrist makes a 7 year peace treaty with Israel and is cut off in the midst of the week.

  This theorist eschatology comes straight from the Presbyterian Freemasons that founded the Oxford Press, Dallas Theological Seminary in Texas, and the notorious Scofield Reference Bible, which is right in line with the New World Translation for heretical biblical translations.

  Cyrus Scofield, Masonic creator of the Reference Bible and Dallas Theological Seminary, got his "secret rapture" theory from the dreams of a Scottish mason daughter, Margaret MacDonald. This Secret Rapture Heresy butched the book of Daniel and spawned the modern (Gap Theory)
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  Leolaia

  Ianone....You're right about the theme of idolatry in Daniel....that was the primary purpose of the book, to encourage those being persecuted to remain firm in their traditions and not to succumb to the pressure to worship the idols and gods being imposed on them by Antiochus and the Hellenizers he made a covenant with. But as for what the "abomination of desolation" (as it is worded in the Greek) or the "abomination that causes desolation/horror" (as it is in Hebrew) was supposed to be, there is hardly any room for doubt. This was the infamous heathen altar installed inside the Temple which was called by this name in other writings as well:

  "And the king sent letters by messengers to Jerusalem and the cities of Judah; he directed them to follow customs strange to the land, to forbid burnt offerings and sacrifices and drink offerings in the sanctuary, to profane sabbaths and feasts, to defile the sanctuary and the priests, to build altars and sacred precincts and shrines for idols, to sacrifice swine and unclean animals, and to leave their sons uncircumcised. They were to make themselves abominable by everything unclean and profane, so that they should forget the Law and change all the ordinances. "And whoever does not obey the command of the king shall die." In such words he wrote to his whole kingdom. And he appointed inspectors over all the people and commanded the cities of Judah to offer sacrifice, city by city. Many of the people, everyone who forsook the Law, joined them, and they did evil in the land; they drove Israel into hiding in every place of refuge they had. Now on the fifteenth day of Chislev, in the one hundred and forty-fifth year, they erected the abomination of desolation upon the altar of burnt offering. They also built altars in the surrounding cities of Judah, and burned incense at the doors of the houses and in the streets. The books of the Law which they found they tore to pieces and burned with fire" (1 Maccabees 1:44-56).

  The stories about Daniel and his companions refusing to worship idols or break their traditions gave encouragement to those who tried to resist the king's persecution. The vision of the "seventy weeks" also helped to explain why the Jews had to endure all this, and the book expressed the hope that divine deliverance was at hand, that all those who died would soon be resurrected, and that God would establish the kingdom that would never again be dominated by Gentile rulers like Antiochus.
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  Ianone

  God would establish the kingdom that would never again be dominated by Gentile rulers like Antiochus.

  "My Kingdom is not of this world"

  Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

  who was Jesus speaking to when He said the Kingdom of God would be taken from them?
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  Ianone

  During His last week, Jesus lamented: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under [her] wings, but you were not willing! See! Your house is left to you desolate" (Matthew 23:37,38). "Your house." No longer "My Father's house." "Your house... desolate" puts us right back in Daniel 9 with "abominations... makes desolate." Their rejection of Jesus during the 70th week ensured that the desolation would come; it could not be withheld.
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  Ianone

  A few questions for leolai

  If Jesus sacrifice is not the New Covenant, than what is the New Coveant that Jeremiah and Isaiah spoke of?

  Jerusalem was destroyed by Titus and his armies in 70ad, a historical fact. Why would the bible leave out such a disastrous event for God's land if Daniel 9:26 is not speaking of Titus and the Jerusalem destruction??

  Septuagint Daniel 9:26 And after the sixty-two weeks, the anointed one shall be destroyed, and there is no judgment in him: and he shall destroy the city and the sanctuary with the prince that is coming: they shall be cut off with a flood, and to the end of the war which is rapidly completed he shall appoint the city to desolations.

  also who is the HE that sends the PRINCE to destroy? if the Prince is the antichrist, than who is the HE? If the HE is the antichrist, than who is the PRINCE?

  If Daniel's Seventieth Week is not about Jesus, than who is the Messiah spoken of in:

  Septuagint Daniel 9:25 And thou shalt know and understand, that from the going forth of the command for the answer and for the rebuilding of Jerusalem until Messiah the prince there shall be seven weeks, and sixty-two weeks: and then the time shall return, and the street shall be built, and the wall, and the times shall be exhausted.???