Not that my JW mother has much, because she spent all the money she had (and it was a lot) before 1975, but she already gave it all to me. Hahahha, WT!!!!
THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING OUT A WILL
by Dansk 32 Replies latest jw friends
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ballistic
Mulan, are you saying your family cant give in death to the Watchtower becuase they already gave it to you?
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Dansk
Slimboyfat
If there was a Watchtower article encouraging Witnesses to leave disfellowshipped people out of their will there would be an apostate outcry. Nuff said...
While it’s true that Watchtower has not come out and openly stated that JWs should exclude disfellowshipped relatives from one’s will the inference is already there. The fact that it encourages the complete shunning of loved ones on the grounds that they have turned their backs on God (when actually it’s the organisation they’ve turned their backs on) leads those JWs fully immersed in the cult to automatically exclude disfellowshipped relatives from their wills. Again, this is emotional blackmail because it is underhandedly "stating" that unless one returns to the cult one is cut off from everything forever – including one’s rightful heritage.
Es
I do understand why you havnt left anything to your daughters but hey they are still your daughters we all get very upset when someone in the truth doesnt accept us for who we are isnt it only fair that we accept say your daughters decision to be in the truth even tho we dont agree. I could never leave my son off my will just because he is doing something I dont agree with. Isnt that stooping to there level Sorry if this comes off harsh es
I fear that you do NOT understand why we haven’t left our daughters anything.
This has nothing to do with our exacting revenge against our girls. On the contrary, we deplore revenge and tit for tat politics. This is ALL about excluding Watchtower!
I clearly stated:
We have had to make sure that our two daughters, who are still active JWs, receive absolutely nothing because we all know that part of anything they would receive would be donated to the society. That cannot be allowed to happen. Our sons inherit everything when we are both dead - and rightly so as they have stood by us all their young lives. If you haven't done so already, I strongly advise that you make out your own last will and testament. If you don't and you have relatives still connected to Watchtower they may well have a claim on your estate and will likely make a donation to the society. If things change in the future, i.e. one's relatives GENUINELY leave Watchtower, then one's will can always be altered to include the once estranged relative(s). ……………. Claire and I decided that never again will Watchtower make a single penny out of us and this is the surest way that it never happens. It really is wonderful to be free and also to know that our estate is watertight against Watchtower.
We have always maintained that our daughters, being adults, ARE free to decide on the paths they choose to follow. However, if those paths can cause hurt to others then we, being equal adults, are at liberty to review the situation. In this case, part of anything they inherited from us would be turned into money and donated to Watchtower – which has so much blood on its hands and caused such immense suffering for countless thousands of people that on humanitarian grounds alone we have made sure it cannot have any access to our estate. Sadly, this entails excluding our daughters because of their donations. Should our daughters genuinely leave Watchtower in our lifetime then the situation becomes entirely different. Our wills can be changed.
Ian
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Eyebrow2
How about this: is there any way that you could set up a trust for your daughters, where it specifically states that they are NOT allowed to give any of the money to the WTS? Is that possible?
I pose the question not just for you, but for others that fear leaving money to their kids may line the WTS pockets.
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Dansk
Hi Eyebrow2,
The problem with making out such a trust is that one never knows what will transpire in the years ahead. Someone could leave Watchtower, inherit property/money from the trust BUT then in later years go back to Watchtower and donate. If the donations were to be made in cash no one would ever know so it could be argued they haven't broken the terms of the trust.
Ian
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Gill
We are waiting to see if my mother in law managed to get her father to change his will before he died. I suspect that she did not manage it but we will shortly find out.
Originally, Grandpa had left all of his money to his daughter and half of the value of his house to be split between his daughter, hubby and his sister, so into three.
Then mother in law, about four years ago started harping on at him about how hubby doesn't go to the meetings and out on the service anymore. According to Grandpa, she would ring him at least once a week to suggest that he should have nothing more to do with us and reconsider his will. But Grandpa was not daft. He went to the solicitors after a few months and redrafted his will. He decided to split everything three ways because he said he KNEW that his daughter would make sure my hubby got nothing at all so he was making sure she didn't succeed. Mother in law was FURIOUS to say the least!
Grandpa had been a JW for nearly ninety years. Obviously, no one had managed to pull the wool over his eyes, until he had his stroke and began suffering from dementia and was conned into signing an EPA. Now time will tell.
But certainly, relatives tried desperately to use the fact that we were no longer JWs against hubby and to try to prevent him inheriting anything.
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MidwichCuckoo
Dansk - couldn't you leave your daughters an inheritance with specific conditions? Just a thought.
Ballistic - you mean some JWs leave EVERYTHING to the WTBTS even though they have family?
Originally, Grandpa had left all of his money to his daughter and half of the value of his house to be split between his daughter, hubby and his sister, so into three...
Lol Gill - bet your Mother-In-Law is kicking herself for opening her mouth... But Grandpa was not daft. He went to the solicitors after a few months and redrafted his will. He decided to split everything three ways because he said he KNEW that his daughter would make sure my hubby got nothing at all so he was making sure she didn't succeed. ..
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ballistic
Ballistic - you mean some JWs leave EVERYTHING to the WTBTS even though they have family?
In a word, yes. Some people here have been completely disowned by witness family, but even those who haven't been "disfellowshipped" know where the money is going.
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Dansk
Some people here have been completely disowned by witness family, but even those who haven't been "disfellowshipped" know where the money is going.
Exactly!
Ian
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Gill
Dansk - you've reminded me of a sister who died maybe twelve years ago. She was one of the annointed and she had family. However, when she died she left her entire estate, which at the time was near enough 100.000 pounds to the WTBTS and a small amount of it to the congregation we were in. She left NOTHING to her children or other relatives.
My mother fell out with a friend who she knew well, when the friend complained that a member of her family, her grandmother had died and left EVERYTHING down to the last speck of dust in her house to the WTBTS. Her family were not even allowed into the house to collect a momento of her. (This was in Italy, by the way) They were very angry with the WTBTS, rightly so, and as my mum's friend had some not very nice things to say about the WTBTS my mum has 'disfellowshiped' her from her association.
MidwichCuckoo - You bet mum in law is kicking herself! She tried that little trick with an Uncle of hers, who was not a JW and constantly complained about how her mother was wasting 'her' inheritance. Mother in law had been due to get half of his estate along with another cousin. She said awful things about her own mum. The end result, Uncle left half his estate to the other cousin, a large amount to his sister in law and only £4000 to mother in law. You'd think she'd have learnt. Her nastiness cost her nearly £80,000 that time!