i told em :)

OklaXwitness

(check out my first post if u wanna know more about my situation)

well i waited till like 6 oclock my parents never came home so we just went to church i came back and we talked for like an hour and i was almost completely truthfull there was maybe one or two things i wasnt about but they were little anyway they know i have a girlfriend they know i went to the assembly of god last night i told em i didnt want to be a witness anymore they tryed saying that maybe i was crazy or i wasnt thinking straight anyway im going to thier meeting tonight so i can talk to the elders and probably get disfellowshipped :) and my dad said that the least i owe him is to let him study with me ive made it clear that i dont want to study but i luv my dad and i respect him so im going to let him

it felt so good giveing up the double life i REALLY dont wanna study but hes right i do owe him something

DHL

Okla,

I've read it all and have to say you remind me of myself. I made my speech when I was 13. And that was the best thing I ever did although it turned out to be quite hard afterwards. So have a go, Okla! I am proud of you!

From my own experience and mistakes there is something I want to tell you: Don't dance waltz! You know what I mean: Two step forwards, one step sidewards, one step backwards. Instead do stand firm. That makes the situation easier to handle. For you and for them. If you don't want to study, stay with it. If you say one thing in the morning and do another in the evening, how could they cope with it? And how would they learn to respect your decisions? They would believe to (still) be able to talk you into this and that and it's just a matter of how hard they set you under pressure. Is that what you want them to think of you? People tend to pay more attention and more respect to straight behavior. Don't you, too?

Btw, what do you think you owe to your dad? Your mental health? Your time? Your love? You surely don't owe your mental health to anybody. You don't owe time or love either. It is up to you to decide but you shouldn't do whatsoever thinking you owe it to someone. You don't.

And remember this: He is absolutely sure to win you back by studying with you. For him that offer is no joke. He's bloody serious about it. This is a power game. He is trying to win back his power over you. Not because he doesn't love you but because he does. He thinks he knows what's best for you. He has the best ambitions. But he wants his best for you. He doesn't look at what is your best. This two "bests" don't necessarily match. Don't forget that when making your decision.

DHL

OldSoul

Okla,

I encourage you to be a very inquisitive student. Make him answer your questions with such expressions as, "Yes, but my question was..." and, "Well, is there a scriptural answer, or not?" and, "So, if I wanted to teach that to someone using only the Bible, how would I do it?"

If you would like some suggestions of some key doctrines to try that with, PM me for a list.

Respectfully,
OldSoul

kittyeatzjdubs

WOW! u told u'r parents that and u'r only what...13??? Jesus! u've got ballz o' steel hun! i didn't have the guts to stand up to my mother until i was 19...Hang tight to u'r convictions and YOU always decide what's right for YOU! No matter what! Don't be like me and let everyone else make your decisions...i wasted so much of my life that way...

Here's to ya Okla! Keep on keepin' on!

luv, kitty

Netty

I only just recently had this talk with my parents, so I know how you feel. Congratulations to you for having the courage. Also, my two cents on studying, why torture yourself, and at the same time lead your father on. You have already taken your stand, now stick with it. keep moving forward. Good luck to you.

Black Sheep

Accept the study, but on your own terms.

You choose what you study.

Choose Should You Believe in the Trinity?.

Do your study preparation well.

Insist on reading full quotations.

Don't let on that you have outside help.

Don't hassle over every little thing, just the deceptive quotations like the anti Nicene Fathers.

Make your father do HIS homework to prove the WT hasn't deceived him.

Don't accept BS.

This site shold help you with your study preparation

"Should you believe in the Trinity?"

I hope you are doing ok Okla, I suspect the last few days have been pretty tough.

CHris

Black Sheep

If you can get Arthur Weigall's " The Paganism in Our Christianity." from the library for when you study that section you might be able to make his head explode.

Bryan

Good job Okla!

Stick in there. Studying with your dad may keep the tention down too.

Take care and keep us posted,

Bryan

Have You Seen My Mother

OklaXwitness

ok well i really dont wanna study im gonna tell em that either today or tomorrow and im going to ask em if i get disfellowshipped if they are gonna kick me out

Black Sheep

Hi Okla,

Slow down. Make a plan.

Your father is going to be a real pain in the butt until he thinks you are not the 'bad guy'. I can only see two ways this can happen. Either you lead a double life as a JW or he realises that you are not wrong.

If you can get him to see how he has been fooled by showing him is own literature you might get somewhere.

How far back does his literature go? If it goes back pre 1975 there are some real honeys you can show him.

Don't burn your bridges yet.

Even if you can just show him WHY you don't trust the WT you might be able to wiggle out of being the big scary evil one.

Try not to talk too much. I made that mistake with my father. Just show him the contents of his own library and let it speak for itself.

Chris

i told em :)

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