The Anglican Church is what you are advocating. I think.
You will enjoy this Bishop Spong.
He is close enough to being a heretic to be seen or enjoyed by Gnostic Christians like me.
Regards
DL
Embrace Judeo-Christian culture and values! Is this politician serious?
by Gnostic Bishop 43 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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LoveUniHateExams
The Anglican Church is what you are advocating - I'm not advocating this. My comments in this thread have said that a reformed xtian culture isn't so bad an idea. This is not religious denomination or worship. The UK would still be secular. Religion (not what I'm advocating!) would be a personal thing limited to places of worship and private homes. Freedom of (and from) religion would still exist.
Like it or not, the UK does have a background of Christian culture.
I mentioned Douglas Murray, a gay man who is also an atheist (having no religion). He self-identifies as culturally Christian. Why are you having so much trouble grasping this?!
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SonoftheTrinity
I think Christian Nationalism can be either incredibly Libertarian (Rastafarians), incredibly Liberal (Anglican Church), or incredibly Totalitarian (Kony, the Mormon Fundamentalists, Nueva Jerusalén.) Christian Nationalism isn't so bad as long as the different flavors of the Kool-Aid stay watered down. When it isn't watered down enough it might as well be poisoning the message of Christ. The Quietism of the Jehovah's Witnesses and other apolitical cults is more depressing than any because they have given up on making the world a better place.
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Gnostic Bishop
Religions are, at there roots, tribal entities. Tribes are too big to confine to homes and no court would agree with your view except in regressive regimes.
The Christian creed is an immoral creed that begins with embracing human sacrifice and the notion that justice is served by punishing the innocent instead of the guilty. If you think the U.K. has embraced such a vile cultural theology then you do not see the U.K. as I do. They are not that immoral.
Regards
DL
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LoveUniHateExams
Tribes [and religions?] are too big to confine to homes and no court would agree with your view except in regressive regimes - but this is how the UK is becoming, i.e. a secular nation. All I have been saying is for Britain not to be ashamed of its Christian past, and keep the best bits of Christian culture.
Given that you view this culture as a vile ideology, and that multiculturalist ideology is deeply flawed and has no democratic mandate, what culture should the UK have?
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Vidiot
SonoftheTrinity - "...they have given up on making the world a better place.
No they haven't.
They never wanted to make the world a better place to begin with.
They arguably want the world to get worse, as that would validate their ideology.
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Gnostic Bishop
There are no worthy bits in the bible that were not plagiarized from some other religion or wisdom tradition.
By the time you found a law worthy for any country, in it, it would be out dated.
The God within it's pages is a genocidal maniac and nothing that has not been plagiarized can be attributed to that vile demiurge.
Regards
DL
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LoveUniHateExams
I'll try again: given that you view this culture as a vile ideology, and that multiculturalist ideology is deeply flawed and has no democratic mandate, what culture should the UK have? -
Gnostic Bishop
You overstate my view.
All nations are heading towards multiculturalism and some are presently in that position and doing quite well.
Canada for one. We are not perfect of course but are slowly eating away at what ails us.
Multiculturalism will work but not if we continue to create enclaves for certain groups in our cities. You cannot have a rapprochement of cultures while splitting them apart.
Look at your own cities and how the cultural enclaves maintain divisions.
Regards
DL
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LoveUniHateExams
Ok, same question slightly adjusted: given that you are less than impressed with christian, and that multiculturalist ideology is deeply flawed and has no democratic mandate, what culture should the UK have?
You may have misunderstood the situation in the UK. The cultural enclaves in UK cities are a direct result of enforced multiculturalist ideology.