is it possible that quickbuilds are another indication that the end was thought to have been here by now..how long have they been going on... 20-25 years...probably was not thought that endurance and mold remidation was going to be nessercary
Quickbuilds
by JW83 21 Replies latest jw friends
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hillbilly
from an earlier posting of mine...
We built one in Broward Fl back in the 80's. The thing is a "temple" all right. Was 'sposed to cost about $5-7 M -god only knows how they kept the books- this thing had to go $10M even with the "free" labor.
They had kids working in confined spaces, on the 3 story roof etc. Damn lucky sombody didnt get killed. Hand digging ditches for pipes, mechanical systems in petrified coral. Lotsa dumb stuff that a professional construction manager would'nt allow. Lotsa wasted capital dollars. Old folks and working stiffs donated every buck- what a waste.
I did electrical work on the site about 30 hours a weekend for over a year. This building had a complex electrical system (and few quailfied workers) I spent most of the time supervising unskilled people (then spending half the night making corrections) I guess it taught me how to be a diplomat.
Somebody donated a stainless steel kitchen- state of the art- now waiting to go the the scrapper. We probably did over $ 500K just in mechanical and electrical for food service and It was used maybe 6 times before the "new" food service kicked in.
Story has it that the architect was a "new brother". He donated his services in designing this hall, lotsa great expensive features. Story has it that some of the GB/home office types gave council about how showy the place was.
The "construction manager" ended up gettin a "promotion". Last I heard he was the manager at the Jersey City, NJ assembly hall, named Fayad (?), ran into him when we visited there in 90 or so. He was a pant load. Got into it with him one day - he expected us to work on ladders all day, installing heavy light fixtures working bare- footed cause HE had ordered the carpet installed early. Pulled about 20 electricians of the job because he wanted us to work under unsafe conditions. I won the battle, but got a little reamed for being "vocal". The same guy had some folks install about 400 sheets of drywall brown side out (backwards) on walls that didnt have electric and plumbing installed yet. That was at least a $2K Oh Sh*t. His logic, " we had willing Brothers here with NOTHING to do!" So have 'em waste a bunch of sweat and materials. What a crock!
Was installing some HVAC control work in a rooftop "penthouse". It was about 150* degrees up there so I had shed my shirt. I was working alone most of the day up there. Stepped out to the nearest water keg and good ol' Bro Nitwit jumped my case about "modesty and going shirtless and how young girls.... (if you've seen me without a shirt you'd be LYAO). I told him to get bent. He's all flusterd now and starts to go into "banning me from the site..bad.attitude..greive the Holey spirit...." So I ask him if HE can finish the HVAC work and keep the project on schedule- now I'm indespensible!
Oh well Live and Learn
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DannyHaszard
The building of a Kingdom Hall ?quick-build? is impressive, but many Witnesses and outsiders do not realize that this is also makes for clever economics. Few people except the religious will devote free time to putting up a building, but Witnesses can do it, and since non-baptized helpers are always present, it affords those reluctant to go door-to-door additional opportunities to ?get their monthly time in,? as is required to be considered a Jehovah?s Witness.
The local Witnesses benefit, since it cuts the cost of their loan from the Watchtower Society to get the land, and the Watchtower benefits, not only from the publicity but they also now own more property and buildings (No, the local Witnesses will never own it.). The Watchtower is big money, being one of the top 40 New York City Corporations making nearly one billion dollars a year. That?s just from one of their many corporations.
I have been a humble carpenter by trade and had other construction skills.All this meant was that bro's who had flunky jobs were eaten up with jealousy.They are a sicko bunch.{James 3:15-16}
Note:worldly people by and large are not like this,why is that?
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JW83
They also give you something to look forward to ...
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avishai
Hated them. Hated, hated, hated them. Being a 14-18 yr.old male at one was terrible. You always ended up with backbreaking shit work, daily threats of asskickings from brothers when you would'nt drop what you wer doing for ANOTHER brother and do what THEY wanted you to do, etc., etc., shoves, pokes, prods, from random bro's from out of town who were bigger trying to show off in front of the sisters, etc., Hated them. Despise them.
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JW83
Avishai, that's cos you made the mistake of actually working! The best thing was to do an hour or two's easy work with friends, then spend the rest of the day having morning tea, lunch, afternoon tea, whoops, is it dinner time already?!!
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steve2
JW building projects - another cause of stumbling and misery in a religion that has proliferated the causes of stumbling and misery and truned them into art forms.
Quick to build, quick to need rebuilding...Done on the not-so-cheap, but looking oh-so-cheap...
The end is just around the corner, so they don't need to last......Uh Oh, the end hasn't come yet; Now what are we going to do with all those moldy, smelly buildings?
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Qcmbr
We used to build our own until we realised it cost far more to do a botch job with unskilled labour than it was to build it properly with trained builders. However, we still do some shocking sound system work - the amount of wasted cash and silly decisions does my nut in.
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avishai
Well, no one said mormons were'nt good with finances!!
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Stephanus
There is a quickbuild going on in our area this weekend.
Yes, the Austinmer/Bulli Kingdom Hall. Some "quick" build - for four years after the hall was burnt down, the site looked like this:
Since they've gotten approval from Council to go ahead, I've seen them at this site working busily to prepare it for the "quickbuild" for at least the last four months. As I said before - Some "Quickbuild"!
