Left the organ. for a while now, and can u believe it on Thur last week elder phoned to ask if i have any problems and if they can come and give me a call.......asksed motive 1.so he can go back to hall and announce that now i am df or if he really loved me. Well if he did really love me i would have got this call 8 years ago. He said love was not that the only thing (to my daughter) WHAT!!! if you do not have love you have nothing, that is what the WT preaches but do not follow themselves. Phoned him back on Mon 23 said no. Well response was if you are not there on Sun 1pm 29 we will go ahead and do what we have to do. Not madmax please let me come to you study the bible only (not with the WT pub oh no!!!) show me what you have found out, let me carry this sheep on my back. Thank goodness as i can NEVER go back will be going back to vomit.
Get over it. The elders don't want to "shepherd" you.
by ithinkisee 19 Replies latest jw friends
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EvilForce
Welcome Mad Max...
So you have been inactive for 8 years, and they are now trying to track you down to DF / DA you?!?! -
EvilForce
Welcome Mad Max...
So you have been inactive for 8 years, and they are now trying to track you down to DF / DA you?!?! -
PaulJ
I agree with this. I found it a bit of a paradox. When I was stronger in the 'truth' I got plenty of visits and plenty of pats on the back etc. When I started to fade and had problems, they didnt want to know! There were time when I was begging them to come round, but not a sausage. Hardly Shepherd-like is it??
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mad max
can you believe it evilforce,
after 8 years not going to the meetings. Reason is in Jan 05 my daughter Loubelle went back to a coulple of JW meetings, after about 2 years, but in that time she did attend the convenstions and memorial's - then Loubelle checked out what the JW past regarding everything - and then me as well - especially re Spirit in one - My Mom and big sister (her husband elder) are very very much a JW, found out that we once attended "Babalyon's place of worship" and that was that.
Now after 8 years they asking if I have any problems, not because they found out about the worldly stuff, because THEY DID KNOW that I was FULLY into the WORLD for these last 8 years and no one called and asked then if i had any problems. Strange don't you think?
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NeonMadman
The only time they want to turn their attention on anyone is when there is blame to be distributed.
Exactly. That was my experience for 30 years in the JWs. Trying to get assistance from the elders was next to impossible (except for perhaps a quick chat before or after a meeting) UNLESS there was the possibility of a judicial committee being formed. Then they were johnny-on-the-spot.
Can't say that in 30 years I ever saw a personal or family problem (mine or anyone else's that I knew of) that got better as a result of the elders getting involved. Invariably, elder involvement added extra pressure and made the situation that much harder to cope with.
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EvilForce
And by their works you shall know them....
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Golden Girl
They never came to see me after I sent my letter of resignation!
When Hubby was sick and dying I begged them to come see him..his JW Mom and sister were visiting us and they even stopped by the Assembley hall up the street where the "brothers were working on the hall getting ready for the overseers visit) and told them to please come see him..They promised they would. Never came..when his Mom and sister went home they called to check with us if they had stopped by..I told them NO. They were furious..My JW sister in law lives by the Watchtower Farm and she made a few phone calls!
Their excuse was they each thought the other had went.They even lied and said so and so stopped by and no one had!
A few days later this really old JW man came alone to visit hubby..he was almost deaf and hubby was too weak to talk much.
He reads the Daily text to hubby (which I usually did every day) and it just so happened to be on a woman's menstral cycle!..How sick is that?..No upbuilding words..no prayer..I had to ask him to say a prayer before he left..(I didn't stay in the room but could hear what he was saying.)He only stayed about 20 minutes..
Now hubby was attending meetings pretty regular before he got sick. But not going out in Service much as he wouldn't do it on his own and didn't seem to get much encouragement.
I don't know if they just said he wasn't that important or what. I do know that they were redoing the hall and were on a tight schedule to get it done to impress the overseer or whoever visits them now..
When he was in the hospital and there was talk about Blood ..they came in a flash to show the hospital that was a No No..
After that..we saw them 2 times in 5 months. That's love for you!..
When he passed away my JW MIL called them and they (3 of them!) came over..he was still here as he had not been picked up yet. They did NOT want to go in that room.I didn't know what they usually did but I kind of expected them to say some kind of prayer for him..
Nothing..just stood around with their hands in their pockets and promised to do a "Back call" on me to see how I was..Never saw them again..I do see the witnesses go by maybe 2 or 3 times a year..but they always walk right by my house..
Hubby died thinking his "Jehovah" didn't love him and that's why the witnesses wouldn't come around. I assured him that was not true..but that's what he died thinking!
I don't think I have ever hated anything in my life..but at that moment when he said that..I hated the witnesses!..
Snoozy...
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luna2
Geeze, Snoozy, that's just horrible! Just my opinion, but I think it's because they don't know what to do. They don't have any real training to deal with people who are ill or in crisis. It's easier to point out people's flaws and pretend to encourage by flogging them to study, pray and make all the meetings than it is to actually comfort or provide real assistance.
There must be some elders that are compassionate, but I'd would imagine that it is because they either had experience in dealing with people before they became JW's or its a natural personality trait.
If the Society does train them, it needs to do a better job because there's a real problem with this.
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Golden Girl
When hubby and I were having problems in our marriage we asked them to stop by. They sent a boy about 18 who wasn't married alone to our home to talk to us! What could he have possibly done to help us? He talked with hubby about his hobbies and left!..I think he might have said a prayer..
We worked it out ourselves..Dimwits.
And they way they handled hubby just shows they haven't changed.
Snoozy...