Were you told you had to tolerate things as a test? (page 2)

Honesty

In fact, I think most of them are practicing for their position as "princes in the new earth".

A lot of them honestly believe thay are 'princes' now and are comfortable with their belief no matter what the scriptures say.

As a Witness and when I talked to Witness apologists, my "issues" were deferred. If I had a practical (read "hard") question I was told to put my question on the shelf and move on. "Jehovah" will "provide" an answer in "His" time. I was told that for every single question. The shelf was getting overloaded.

If I did something the elders didn't like they came at me swinging. If some Witness I didn't like did something obviously "wrong", the elders told me to "wait on Jehovah". Why the hell did they get the "J wait" and I got blasted? lol

AK - Jeff

Once - twenty years b4 I finally saw the light and got out, the BOE wrote a nasty letter to the BOE where I was moving to keep them from putting me on the servant body there. They told outright lies, misrepresented facts, slandered my good name. [I had been a servant in the first congregation for years with never a single objection or problem] The only thing I did to tick them off was to move after they 'recommended that I stay'.

Did u say princes or pr***s?

Jeff

zulukai

Sure we were told everything they wouldn't deal with, every slanderous remark and every wrong doing we happened to notice was a test. One day I just let some stupid brother have it and said to him "what do you mean TEST?? Test of what my INTELLIGENCE??? Well I'm not taking any more of your intelligence tests...the things I am telling you are a direct violation of Scriptual principles and you are refusing to deal with it which in iteslf is a direct violation of your duties as an elder!!" He just looked at me as if I wasn't there. Nothing was ever done about anything no matter what you knew. A sister slandered me terribly and no one did a thing about it. A witness fruitcake tied his mother's dog to a truck bumper and dragged it to death in front of the whole neighborhood because it bit him and probably for good reason, and NOT ONE THING was ever done about. It was another test you see. That whole family was a pack of degenerates including the grandfather of this Deliverance clan.. a PO of the congregation. We were told everything was none of our business. And JW's are supposed to forgive. What a joy to be free of that cesspool!!

Golden Girl

So I guess when the disfellowshipping comittee comes calling..we could say..OK..I am tolerating YOU..this is a test right?

No really..didn't it seem like you were the one doing all the tolerating?

Putting up with the sarcastic remarks of others if you weren't doing something exactly as they thought it should be done?

Not placing enough books and mags..not having enough book studies..and reviewing the talk you just gave in front of everyone..Especially if you screwed up and ran over...How embarrasing was that!

Your kids not behaving the proper way..not pioneering when your kids entered school...they could complain about everything..those are the ones still in..us ones that did the tolerating had enough!..We left!..

Snoozy...of the "Free and Clear" class now!

I just thought of something else..after I left the JW's and eventually went to work..I found myself apologising all the time..I don't know why..I guess I though everyone else was better than me and I had to be humble..

Well a co-worker called me on it one time..I didn't even realize I was doing it!

Well I stepped back and realized..hey..I don't have to do this anymore..and a big smile came on my face!

Snoozy again..

mad max

Its just hit me, I am still today always saying "I am sorry"

Most of the time when i speak to my clients, i say " I am sorry to call you, or I am sorry, but i need your copy or whatever relates to my work"

I remember when I told an elder about this, he said this shows that I am humble, and I felt quite good about that, then. The light has gone on today, thanks. I can also now have a smile on my face, which I have.

Petruska

Yeah a lot...

LongHairGal

GaryBuss:

I experienced the same phenomenon you did, where other people were cut slack but I wasn't. Hypocrisy at its worst. I always wondered about this and figured maybe it just came down to personalities. In short, they liked the other person more than me. It is nice to know it isn't just gender based! I suspect though that it may have a lot to do with if the "favored" person is knocking themselves out in the ministry - then certain things will be overlooked unless they piss off the "wrong" people.

Over time though I tended to bother with fewer people there because it seems they are rife with uppity and screwy people. I have no tolerance for them, but not because I am not sympathetic to the human condition. No, it is because I feel faulty teachings are leading certain people to think they can do and get away with anything - and expect to be forgiven. If I didn't know better I might think they expected to be rewarded for their bad behavior!

Rather than having confrontations with uppity people with twisted logic and pay them back the way they deserve to be paid back I cut many people loose.

LHG

EvilForce

I was told to wait on Jehoba to fix my "gayness". But I should live a life of chastity and be miserable for the rest of "this wicked system of things". For surely Jehoba would fill me with joy waiting upon him to fix me. When I said I tried that approach for 3 years and Jehoba had foresaken me, they looked horrified. When they pleaded for me to "try again" I said NO! Unless God himself shows himself to me and asks me for such because I gave him 3 years aleady.... if he's too busy to answer a single prayer in 3 years, well he is not a God I have time to serve. Nuff said!

Hondo

Before my wife joined up with the JW's she was a vibrant, exciting woman. After she joined, and before our divorce, she transformed/changed amost a 100%. She always seemed to be feeling sorry for herself. The way she talked was different; more subdued distant compared to the early days of our marriage. I had the distinct feeling on many occasion that she felt persecuted, or was suffering, because she was married to a "non-believing" mate, and not a "loving" JW (she had already tried several time to get me to start going to meetings with her. I wisely chose not to). I'm not sure how she feels now, but do have a high degree of certaintly that after the divorce (maybe someone out there can elaborate), she was happy to be rid of me and away from a non-JW, while at the same time blamed herself, to a degree, for our splitup.

Thoughts/comments

Thanks

Were you told you had to tolerate things as a test?