2 jws just called

by Satanus 19 Replies latest jw experiences

  • 4JWY
    4JWY

    Saturday I was e-mailing a friend and mentioning that it seemed probable that, being Saturday, we'd get a knock at the door and an invite to the DC coming up.

    Not sure why I felt that way, since no one has ever come a calling to "shepherd" us, except for one year ago when Mr. Elder came to the door on the day of the memorial to invite us to it. At that very moment as I was typing my e-mail, walking past my front window IS Mr. Elder and his wife, passing us right by and going to the next house. That was a little too weird for me.

    It may have been the American flag out front that scared them off, or his recollection of the interesting conversation we'd had with him at our door a year ago.

  • jeanniebeanz
    jeanniebeanz
    But, i just did not want to hear repeated all those same lines that i used to repeat.

    I hear ya. It just makes me sick; it's like looking at the walking dead. They have no idea what truth really is or how to find it. They have pre-programmed responses (not answers, responses) to everything you could ask or say. If there is not a suitable response, they assume you are some evil rabid frothing at the mouth apostate. Have you ever asked them to define apostate? One at my door would not even read the dictionary definition out of Websters; she just looked at me like I was trying to hand her a viper rather than a dictionary. Atomatons... Very sad...

    J

  • PaulJ
    PaulJ

    I had 2 brothers call on me about a year ago, I didnt know them and just politely said I wasnt interested. One was obviously new and so so so keen with his magazines, so that when I said this he just left it at that, which I was greatful for.

    Thing is there are so many things I could now say to them but I already KNOW the arguments they might come back with- whats the point?

  • mad max
    mad max

    I agree what's the point.

    But what I would like to do is, invite them in, go to my cupboard, get out all the mail I got from the internet about the lies upon lies, upon lies. Boxes of papers and give it to them or shove it into their hands ( as they wont take anything).

    But what's the point.

    Just close the door.

  • LouBelle
    LouBelle

    I like to dream .... so next time I think I'll say " oh yes I heard about you wicked witness cult and how you shut up the kingdom of God, and I heard about all your false predictions & lies, and I heard about you joined the UN and I heard about....... "

    You think they'll stay that long????

  • sweet tee
    sweet tee
    You think they'll stay that long????

    Prepare for a belly-laugh lula - they'll jump off the f'ing porch and run like they have on gasoline drawers in HELL!

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman

    Witnesses never call around here, for some reason. My wife has lived in this town for 15 years and says she's never talked to one, though she has (rarely) found a tract or something in the door. Two JW guys did call one day when I was home alone, and it was a really bad day, so I couldn't talk to them. But I accepted the magazines - made it almost a classic Service Meeting - style placement for them, and I figured I'd nail them when they made the return visit. That was over a year ago, and I'm still waiting for them to show up.

    I did have a series of meetings with some Mormon missionaries a while back, though, and I found what they said to be very interesting. After several meetings in which I asked them numerous questions about their religion that they could not answer, one of them finally said that it wasn't their position to defend their beliefs. Their job was just to go out and find people who were interested and to cultivate the interest. They didn't have time to waste on people who were not really interested in joining their church.

    I thought that was a very "cultic" thing to say. I mean, if you accept an assignment to go out and promulgate your faith to the public at large, doesn't it make sense that you would be expected to defend it against other ideas and legitimate criticisms? And yet, it seems to parallel exactly the attitude of most JWs who engage in the field service. Just go out and cherry-pick; skim the cream, and if someone starts asking the wrong kind of questions, run away before you get contaminated. Appropriate for them under the circumstances, I guess, but hardly the hallmark of someone who is actually promoting Truth.

  • katiekitten
    katiekitten

    It used to really upset my mum that the witnoids worked so hard to bring in new recruits when all the time there were thousands of witnesses leaving. She said they should have focussed their energy on looking after the flock they had (like loving shepherds).

    She used to caclulate the numbers every year when the year book came out - how many baptisms versus the total increase in numbers over the year - surprise surprise they were bringing in thousands of new people and the numbers werent going up in the UK. She couldnt believe how nobody noticed it.

    Whats the point of bringing them all in at the front door when they are haemorraging out the back door?

  • Swan
    Swan

    Katiekitten:

    It used to really upset my mum that the witnoids worked so hard to bring in new recruits when all the time there were thousands of witnesses leaving. She said they should have focussed their energy on looking after the flock they had (like loving shepherds).

    Here's something I learned in a recent business class, but it could probably also be applied to the business of religion:

    It costs 5 to 6 times more to attract a new client than to maintain an existing one.

    You lose 1 out of 5 clients who have problems with your service.

    It takes 12 positive client service interactions to make up for one negative.

    I guess that what Jesus said about the one lost sheep was spot on, huh?

    Tammy

  • luna2
    luna2

    Amazing, isn't it, katie?

    I can't say I was treated horribly or anything, I didn't bring any questions to the elders, I just slowly got fed up and stopped going. However, a friend of mine tried many times to get questions on "new light" answered and was rebuffed or condescended to. I don't know if it was this questioning that caused it, but "the friends" started giving her grief, telling her she should be pioneering (cuz she was a single sis and had all that free time on her hands, nevermind she has to work full time to support herself) or, at least, "doing more". She started having trouble getting publications and tapes that she'd ordered...somehow her order would either magically disappear or get skipped over, as well as other petty cruelties. It all built up until she couldn't take it any more. Of course, when she stopped going to meetings, suddenly they were leaving messages on her phone, emailing and knocking on her door wanting to "talk". Too little, way too late, guys.

    It never made sense to me to love bomb new ones trying to suck them into the org, only to neglect or mistreat those who they already owned.

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