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ImACatholic

Catholics don't pray to saints. They pray through them. It's like speaking to the first lady to nag the president to do something. I'm just curious what you people think about. What that guy wrote.

ImACatholic

My question is basically what is your response to these verses

1. That God exists in a Trinity of three eternal and co-equal persons: Father (Romans 1:7), Son (John 20:28) and Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3,4 and I John 5:7).

2. Jesus is no less than God in human flesh (Colossians 2:9).

3. God, the Holy Spirit, is the third member of the Holy Trinity (Matt. 28:19; Acts 13:2).

4. Jesus Christ rose bodily from the grave (John 2:20,21; Luke 24:39).

5. Jesus is visibly coming again to set up His Kingdom on earth (Matt. 24:30; Acts 1:8; Rev. 1:7).

6. Salvation is in the person of Jesus Christ and comes through faith in Him. (Acts 16:31). It's the work of God for man, not a work of man for God (Titus 3:4-6).

7. Jesus was and should be worshipped (John 20:26-28; Matt. 2:10-12, 14:33)

greendawn

Imacatholic, do you realise that most people on this forum are ex JWs with a wide range of views on each issue?

Here, we agree. However, everything else you said does not support this and actually diminishes and reduces God to some thing far less than everywhere Present. Few things are as quick and efficient in the act of shrinkage and belittlement of the Divine as the Christan religion. It's as if they set out to see to what extent they could weaken and decrease God.

Since God is everywhere present, we do not need a baby jesus, or a rotting old book of silly scriptures, or a bunch of pomp-ass clergymen; we need only the openness and earnestness to see what is here, already.

j

heathen

I kinda agree with james on this . If God is everywhere, then wouldn't that make me God ?

the_classicist

We've had a lot of hit-and-run evangelists lately.

*lol* It did seem a wee bit troll-like; of course, that would be if you're on a mainly active-JW forum.

JamesThomas

If God is everywhere, then wouldn't that make me God ?

Exactly! What egomaniac on this tiny planet has the right to say that ultimately you are not God? Who the hell are they to have such authority?

In order to raise the anthropomorphic deity of Jesus to the stature of Divine and holy one, alone, we must subtract, decrees and diminish God everywhere else in the cosmos. In the name of honoring God, and under the belief we are doing the most wonderful thing, we commit the most vulgar solecism known to man.

j

ImACatholic

If god is everwhere that has nothing to do with the fact that people have souls and free wills over the actions of their body, and the eternal effect on their soul.

JamesThomas

That makes sense if God is some tiny little entity separate from you, and you have this great earthshaking power to disobey your far away little god.

However, if GOD IS INDEED EVERYWHERE, then the only thing left to do is seek within yourself for the here and now presence of the Kingdom of God, that you have so far missed due to having your head stuck up into some old book written by a bunch of desert tribal story tellers who probably had no clue of God's limitless, infinite and unbound nature, any more than you seem to.

The problem is, is that you keep making yourself and your "free will" the center of the universe. When, if the truth be known, of yourself - you are nothing.

j

heathen

ImAcatholic --- I'm a catholic as well but still can't suspend my disbelief to the point of even understanding your last comment ...... ( I really don't practice the religion anymore )

If god is everwhere that has nothing to do with the fact that people have souls and free wills over the actions of their body, and the eternal effect on their soul.

Here you are saying both that I am God but still God exists in an imperfect form ...... I think I better go and start worshipping myself ...............

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