The verdict is in! Michael Jackson is . . . . . . . . NOT GUILTY!

by nicolaou 138 Replies latest social current

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  trevor

  
  There is such a thing as explicit sexual poses but I do not personally think these qualify. I found the pictures in both links artistic rather than pornographic. There is more child nudity in the average historic art gallery than the Boy book.

  Nudity in itself can be viewed as art and only becomes sexual in the mind of the viewer. I can not know how Jackson perceived these pictures I can only comment on my own perception of them.

  Jackson’s interest may have more to do with the loss of his own childhood - an attempt to relive the feelings of being a boy which the pressures of show business denied him. He built his Neverland Ranch to recreate a lost childhood which is a factor in how his interest in children may be viewed. Maybe I am being generous but I would rather that than wrongly accuse someone.
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  144001

  "I don't want my kids taken from me because I think them playing in the bath tub is cute."
  
  I'll take my chances, but taking my kids away from me would require a court order as well as bulletproof vests and estate planning for the individual(s) charged with the task of coming to my house to get them.
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  Simon

  Any parent who leaves their child with Jackson ought to be incarcerated.

  Strange ... this is something that one of the jurors said too - and yet she supposedly thought he was innocent. If he was innocent then why would she think & say that? It doesn't make sense.

  Personally, if I was a juror I may not to be one of the people who sent whacko to his almost certain death in prison since they were going to plaster my picture all over the news (does no one think that is bad for justice?!?!) and some of his fans are as doolalley as he is. I wouldn't want some disgruntled fan calling at my front-door with a gun.

  Self presevation and book deals ... it's the American way.
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  144001

  "Any parent who leaves their child with Jackson ought to be incarcerated." - 144001
  
  "Strange ... this is something that one of the jurors said too - and yet she supposedly thought he was innocent. If he was innocent then why would she think & say that? It doesn't make sense." -- Simon
  
  The reason she/he, and I, would say that, is because it's not enough in the USA to think someone's a molestor. The state must prove it beyond a reasonable doubt and must do so by bringing specific charges against the defendant. In the MJ case, the state brought a very weak case to court citing specific incidents that were pretty unbelievable. So, despite my belief that MJ is a molestor, I agree with the verdicts, as he should be punished for specific crimes he's been proven to have committed, not some fairy tale fabricated by some lowlife seeking to get rich quick.
  
  "Self presevation and book deals ... it's the American way." -- Simon
  
  Unfortunately, this is quite accurate. I wish there was a way to prohibit jurors from profitting from their service as jurors. I bet that at least some of the jurors were willing to serve due to the lure of a fat book deal thereafter. This will always be the case when the defendant is a celebrity.
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  littlerockguy

  We are talking about the legal system here; Just because somebody is declared "not guilty" in the legal sense does not necessarily mean they are innocent. Just because you believe he actually did it, you have to go by what is presented in court beyond a reasonable doubt and if there can possibly be any hint of doubt then they are not guilty.
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  jeanniebeanz

  If he was innocent then why would she think & say that? It doesn't make sense.

  When she was interviewed, she didn't give her reasons for that statement. However, just the appearance of impropriety may dissuade a reasonable parent from allowing such behavior.

  If a neighbor has been accused of treating children badly, even if he were cleared of all charges, I still do not think that I would allow my son to play unattended at his home. Get in his bed? You have got to be kidding me! If you ask me, even if michael were completely innocent of the accusations, any parent who would allow a child to share the bed of a full grown (physically at least) man should be prosecuted for child endangerment...imho of course...

  J
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  LittleToe

  So I looked at that site, and now have more pictures of scantily clad children in the cache on my harddrive than I've ever had before. But were my IT department to audit it, I wouldn't even blush. I've seen more nudity at the hand of Leonardo da Vinci (e.g. Children's Bacchanal - now there's a topic!) or Raphael.

  "The Boy" was released in 1964, and "Lord of the Flies" in 1963 a time when censorship was even more stringent than today.

  Any parent who leaves their child with Jackson ought to be incarcerated.

  I couldn't agree more, though not so much because of potential risk of harm to the child from MJ, as for the fact that they are a negligent parent.

  As for the American justice system, aside from talking out of my ass as I wasn't privvy to the information the jurors were (a situation we ALL find ourselves in whilst offering our sagely opinions), I think justice was done.

  LT, of the "I've got a childhood nudey photo of myself and may offer it up on eBay, in the interests of art" class
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  GermanXJW

  >Just because somebody is declared "not guilty" in the legal sense does not necessarily mean they are innocent.
  
  Which means you can do serious lasting harm to an innocent person by accusing him...
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  Simon

  IMO Scotland has the best legal system. Rather than just having guilty or not-guilty verdicts they also have a third of "unproven". That is, the case against someone was not proved but neither were they proved to be innocent.

  I don't think that MJ is innocent but believe it may be unproven.
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  Simon

  Also, the family may have been (probably were) money grabbers looking for a payoff ... but whether that is true or not still does not make him innocent.

  Kind of like a sting operation ... the person is still guilty if they get caught even if they were setup.