Your ridiculous contention is the Jewish leaders NEVER knew who Jesus was by sight, right up to Judas betrayal. They needed the disciples around him to recognize him at the second feast You teach the Jews didn't know STILL who they were looking for and needed Judas to show them a man who made himself VERY visible to the Jewish leaders. That is stupid Miss False Teacher.
Here's where Jesus starts showing his face, WELL BEFORE the second feast and Judas' betrayal:
John 5:1-2
5:1 Some time later, Jesus went up to Jerusalem for a feast of the Jews.
Lots o people at feats, including the Jewish big wigs (See feast #2). Of course at this point, the Jewish leaders SAW him and could now identify his FACE.
And here, the Jewish leaders begin to know WHO he is very well:
John 5:9-10
The day on which this took place was a Sabbath, 10 and so the Jews said to the man who had been healed, "It is the Sabbath; the law forbids you to carry your mat."
Starting to spread by word of mouth:
John 5:14-15
15 The man went away and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.
Oooohhhh, THAT man at the feast. They know that face. They saw him at the first feast in Jerusalem.
So, what did these men WHO KNEW CHRIST VERY WELL at this point by reputation and sight do???
John 5:16-17
16 So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews persecuted him.
They saw him, they persecuted him. Yet you contend they never knew him. False Teaching Miss False Teacher.
What else?
John 5:16-18
17 Jesus said to them, "My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working."
Jesus was taunting these Jewish leaders who saw him and he them. See??? He was talking to people (Jewish leaders) who saw him and Jesus saw them. They KNEW him by sight and reputation. You teach otherwise. That is a false teaching Miss False Teacher.
John 5:17-18
18 For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him;
Well, seems they knew by sight which guy they wanted to kill eh? But you teach they never knew who he was at the second feast. All of this I quote is well BEFORE the second feast. They knew Christ by sight and by reputation well BEFORE the second feast. You teach otherwise. That is a false teaching Miss False Teacher.
John 5:19-20
19 Jesus gave them this answer (Jewish leaders): "I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.
Seems Jesus is having a discussion with the Jewish leaders, who he was looking at, and they at him. They know him quite well and SEE him even more so. You teach otherwise. That is a false teaching Miss False Teacher.
John 5:19-45 is Jesus confronting these Jewish leaders. They SAW him talking and knew him very well by SIGHT and REPUTATION. You teach they never knew him at the second feast. Here are your very teachings:
>>>>1. The Jews were seeking to kill him;
2. They would identify him by the MEN he was with (remember? They didn't know who HE was?)
3. This put HIM at risk of being impaled BEFORE his 'time', to the detriment of MANY, for he had not yet concluded a COVENANT with his disciples... for life... and a kingdom;<<<<
Point two of your doctrine is a lie and a false teaching according to the Bible. Yet this is what you teach. That is a false teaching Miss False Teacher. The Jewish leaders knew EXACTLY who Christ was by sight and by reputation.
Much of Jesus teaching was done here:
John 6:59
59 He said this while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum.
Who hangs out here? All the big wig Jewish leaders and preists. He was getting in their face. The synagogue was THEIR territory. The Jews saw this man at their prized possession invading their space, exposing them. They knew him VERY WELL by sight and by reputation. You teach otherwise. That is a false teaching Miss False Teacher.
Now we get to chapter 7 where you say the Jewish leaders never knew who Jesus was, that's why he went to the second feast in secret. Seems these prior two chapters have his face AND reputation as well known as and FBI most wanted poster to the Jewish leaders. He wasn't hiding. His secret entry into the second feast is because HE ALREADY HAD A REPUTATION and it was building, and because of this:
John 7:4
4 No one who wants to become a public figure acts in secret.
Following these very words, Christ acts in secret. Because he does not want to become a "public figure." (He ran away from becoming king, remember?)
John 7:10
10 However, after his brothers had left for the Feast, he went also, not publicly, but in secret.
What about them Jewish leaders who knew him TOO WELL from all the previous confrontations?
John 7:11
11 Now at the Feast the Jews were watching for him and asking, "Where is that man?"
Seems they knew WHO to look for if they were watching for him. They KNEW him TOOOO WELL. You teach they never knew him. That is a false teaching Miss False Teacher. Go look at doctrine #2 above. That is a false teaching.
Again, at the second feast, Jesus gets in their face by placing himself into their stomping grounds:
John 7:14
14 Not until halfway through the Feast did Jesus go up to the temple courts and begin to teach.
Right up in the Jewish leaders face. They knew that face TOOOO WELLL. You teach otherwise. That is a False TEACHING MISS FALSE TEACHER. All of these times were well BEFORE Judas betrayal, and yet you teach the Jewish leaders still didn't know Jesus because Judas had to identify him to the Roman soldiers to be arrested.
Here LOOK:
John 7:32
Then the chief priests and the Pharisees sent temple guards to arrest him.
NOT the officials FROM the cheif preists, THE CHIEF PREISTS. They knew who to have arrested here WITHOUT JUDAS HELP. They knew Jesus too well. You teach otherwise. That is a false teaching Miss False Teacher.
Here, notice they (the chief preists and the officials) are described as TWO SEPERATE ENTITIES:
John 19:6
6 As soon as the chief priests and their officials saw him,
The "officials" from the chief priests are NOT the chief preists who knew Jesus too well Miss False Teacher. He hung out and got down in their church EXPOSING THEM. He grooved with the teachings of truth in the temple courtyards exposing the filthy scum bag Jewish LIARS. Other wise it would have SAID the chief priests went with Judas. It doesn't say that.
John 19:6
6 As soon as the chief priests and their officials saw him,
John 18:3
some officials from the chief priests and Pharisees.
Their representative officials FROM the chief priests went, Judas had to identify Christ to the arresting Roman officers.
You also teach that your lord told you he lied:
>>>>'did he ever lie', does it?
Now, permit me, to share with YOU what has been shared with ME... by my Lord... and which, in face, prompted this inquiry by him, which he gave to ME... to give to you. Note:
"'The world has not reason to hate you, but it hates me,
because I bear witness concerning it that its works are
wicked. You go on up to the festival; am not yet going
up to the festival, because my due time has not yet fully
come.' So after he told them these things, he remained in
Galilee."
So far, so good... yes? Ah, but let's continue:
"But... when his brothers had gone up to the festival,
then he ALSO went up himself... NOT openly... but in
secret."
Uhhhhh-ohhhhhh. My Lord told his disciples that he was NOT going to do something that he then... IN SECRET... actually did. Hmmmmm...
And yet, he was 'without sin'.<<<<
Your lord is a fake and a phony balony. Keep your lying lord. Because he isn't Jesus Christ of the Bible. It's a counterfeit Christ.
Funny, I don't see your side kick Aaron the false prophet defending your ridiculous premises. Aaron? Where are you? You agree with these contrived and concocted pathetic attempts as truth from God?