COC , nail in the coffin?

noidea

I know that many of you have read COC.
Was you mind made up about leaving the org. before or after you read it?

I had serious doubts before, but as you stated...that was the first nail in the JW coffin. The final nail was after I read In search Of Christian Freedom :) I owe an eternal debt of gratitude to brother Franz, Thanks Ray!!!!!!!!! I would have gotten to where I am now eventually, but it probably would have taken longer and would have been more painful.

ozziepost

I had serious doubts before, but as you stated...that was the first nail in the JW coffin. The final nail was after I read In search Of Christian Freedom :) I owe an eternal debt of gratitude to brother Franz, Thanks Ray!!!!!!!!! I would have gotten to where I am now eventually, but it probably would have taken longer and would have been more painful.

I have quoted this post from betweenworlds because it expresses my thoughts exactly.

The sequel "In Search of Christian Freedom" seals it all. I believe that no JW can read these books and not be affected.

Cheers,
Ozzie

"There are two ways of moving men, interest and fear" Napoleon

jurs

I knew before I read Crisis of Conscience. Someone here (I can't remember which poster) mentioned the prodigals son and how when someone tries to be reinstated they are not treated like that. WOW that hit my heart. On another web site Beacon's i read about shunning. There again it hit my heart and hard. Crisis of Conscience affected my brain.... my heart already made up my mind.
jurs

D wiltshire

When I first read CoC I would only read for about 1/2 hour. I felt I was sinning every time I would read it, but I wasn't satified anymore being a JW.
Every couple of years when I was feeling down, I would go to the library and read it but only for a 1/2 hour.

I would go to the internet when I was really bored, and would always be curious as to what the apostates had to say.
Little by little I was slowly comming out of mind control, and when I read an article about mind control I was able to see clearly that I was in it,(BAM!!!)I was under mind control.
I then went right down to the library and check out Ray's Book CoC.
So while it wasn't Ray's book entirely it was very influental.

philo

I read COC a year after leaving. Reading a real, whole book, was too much to ask of me as a dub!

The Internet had a big influence in my leaving.

philo

TweetieBird

I, like many of the other posters, had the doubts first. Before that I would have not considered reading CofC. Therefore, the book confirmed my doubts. After I read that it was ISOCF and that was it. While I still occasionally attend meetings, not because I want to, but sometimes I go to keep family happy, in my heart and mind, I am done with it.

As was mentioned before, once you read both of Franz' books, I don't think you can ever go back to believing the BS.

My next project is Gentiles Reconsidered. I've heard that it was very enlightening as well.

Amazing

Hi Noidea: I had serious concerns before I read Crisis of Conscience. My concerns led me to look for the book, and when I read it, it validated what I was experiecing and observing. But, I did not leave the organizaiton right away because I did not know wherew else to go, and I could not think of a way to get my family out. So, I stayed in and played the game, but with a different view of the organization.

When I read In Search of Christian Freedom 2 years later, I saw that the issue was not 'where else to go' but to whem to go to, that being Jesus Christ, and not an organization. Somehow that concept was lost when I was a JW, but I rediscovered it with Ray Franz' second book. I managed to develop a good plan to get my family out. It worked. They came out with me. The rest is history.

Amazing

ozziepost

I saw that the issue was not 'where else to go' but to whem to go to, that being Jesus Christ, and not an organization. Somehow that concept was lost when I was a JW, but I rediscovered it with Ray Franz' second book.

The best words I've read all day! Thank you, Amazing.

Cheers,
Ozzie

"There are two ways of moving men, interest and fear" Napoleon

Mulan

Hi Jurs.......that might have been me!! I have posted that many times, about the prodigal son.

I read C of C during my 'personal revelations'. After I read it, I told my husband that I didn't want to go anymore. Until then, we were still attending meetings, trying to fit in, and be a force for good. It just would never have happened, and the book made me see that.

Marilyn (a.k.a. Mulan)

COC , nail in the coffin?

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