While a JW, Did You Ever Let On That You Were "Going Apostate"?

by minimus 47 Replies latest jw friends

  • crazyblondeb
    crazyblondeb

    During my teen years, even after baptism at 16, I never did pay attention to the doctrines. I payed just enough attention to get by. So I never have really understood the 607 BCE, and the other dates. I do remember the 1975 shit, I was 11. I don't remember really the word "apostate" much. They threw "worldly" people around.

    I'd love nothing more to tell both of my parents that I am an "apostate"--hear me roar!!!!!!!!!!!!! I did have to email my mother yesterday. I told her if we were going to talk, the JW topic was unacceptable. She can have her beliefs, and I have mine. WOOO- that would be 2 wammy's- wiccan and apostate!!

    shelley

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974

    In 1995 I was asking alot of questions about the societies stance on child abuse; at this point in time I only knew of one instance and couldnt understand how this had been swept under the carpet; I honestly didnt know of the other instances and there was such scandal surrounding this issue (obviously I had been quite sheltered from the truth about the truth).

    It was then muttered around the hall that me and my then wife were turning apostate....me being me I tackled the situation head on and went to the person who started this off and asked why they thought we were apostate? They denied the comments and nothing was ever said to my knowledge since.

    Didnt go to m/any meetings after this point.

    DB74

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan


    I told one bro on the phone (this was a couple of months before I found freeminds and this board, so I was still sort of a believer) that all the emphasis on "turning in your time" was really annoying to me, and that I was tired of all the pressure to go d2d when I was just plain uncomfortable with it and that was something that was never going to change.

    He said "you don't have to turn in time if you don't want to".

    I just responded with silence, because it was a bullshit answer and he knew it. Later in the conversation he kept saying "You're starting to sound like an apostate". He was right, and the prospect of this didn't bother me at all. :-)

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    Hi Minimus,

    None of the biggies at Bethel knew what I was thinking and so when I told Daniel Sydlik that I had to leave to take care of my family, no questions were asked. Remember I was a model Bethelite. When I came back to Calif, it would have brought suspicion on me had I NOT let them appoint me as an elder, especially with what was going on at Bethel, so I above all wanted them to have nothing on me, so I waited until I was SURE this was not the truth (although I already knew the GB were idiots and I had no allegiance to them. ) But you know how many feel, that the org is corrupt but most of what they teach is da troof, so it took some studying to tell eventually that ALMOST EVERYTHING they teach is unbiblical, which is a major revelation. Plus, after reading the Bible by itself, I had a major supernatural experience (at least for me) where I felt the presence of Christ IN ME physically for two weeks straight. I did not ask for it nor did I know such a thing existed, but it was reading the Bible about Christ that did it. After that the Watchtower was a joke, because I actually understood what so many born-again Christians were saying about the indwelling of the Spirit. Going back would be a joke after that. In the years that followed, I continued reading early church fathers, parts of the Talmud, Biblical Archeological Review, spoke in seminaries and learned a great deal, spending $100 a month on books for three years, until I got all the basics of biblical interpretation down. Although I am not an inerrantist, most of my conclusions during that time can be found in this folder on my site:

    http://www.freeminds.org/doctrine/doctrine.htm

    In the years that followed, I became a Foursquare pastor and taught all over, even had my own church of 40% ex-Witnesses and we used to visit all kinds of churches. Then I met Steven Hassan and started doing interventions on JWs and others, and realized that faith cannot be proven from the Bible or life, but it is something that becomes part of you. Now I am an ecclectic Christian, but I can never deny my Lord, for He is in me forever. That is what it means to be truly born again, as real as your love for your parents or wife or whatever. I had no desire to get married beyond that point, after trying for years. I was finally content. Today I can help others without anger, because I am free of struggles with theology and religion. Plus no one in the Watchtower personally did me wrong. I have no anger. And I am quite accepting of all people from all walks of life.

    We all have our own story, this is mine.

    Randy

    http://www.exjws.net

    Virtual church if you are too afraid to try fellowship with others: http://www.exjws.net/message/index.htm

  • GetBusyLiving
    GetBusyLiving

    That was really interesting Randy, thanks.

    GBL

  • Dogpatch
    Dogpatch

    Thanks GBL, and DantheMan I hope all is well with you. Keep on keepin' on!

    Randy

  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    Poster boy "Apostate with attitude"

  • evita
    evita

    I was working as a supervisor in a department store. It was the holiday season and I was stuck behind the sales counter with a long line. Ex-dub is in my line and she recognized me from somewhere but I barely knew her. She started in on me about leaving the trooth and why did I leave. I tried to be polite and said it just wasn't for me anymore. Well she kept on in a really aggressive way about how wrong I was to leave blah blah blah. Finally, I'd had it. I said, "I don't believe it is god's organization, I don't believe it's the truth." She looked at me in horror and said "you sound like an APOSTATE!"

    After she left, I ran into the back room and practically passed out with fear. I had really exposed myself in public so to speak.

    E.

  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    Need to vent? "Apostates with Attitude" New user friendly group easy to join and sign in.---- http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Apostates-with-Attitude Description: Anti cult group for EX Jehovah's Witnesses defrauded and ripped off by the greedy 'fraud for God' Watchtower racket.

  • zagor
    zagor

    I was always on my left foot with elders. Sometimes I thought to myself, ‘gee if I jokingly told them I wanted out they'd disfellowshipped me right then and there, no questions asked.’

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