TO ALL BODIES 0F ELDERS - July 1, 1989

by Kent 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • HoChiMin
    HoChiMin

    Maximus;

    Yes I remember being told, with no written letter for reference, about ditching files quickly.
    We had a plan to play a shell game with the files if any authorities came knocking. Sad state of affairs, I'll never miss it and just shake my head when I think of how duped I was.

    HCM

  • Kent
    Kent

    Hi BoozeRunner

    3. A brief description of the facts, including the presence of apostates.

    Experiences from Norway has shown us that "presence of apostates" can make the Watchtower pay for the case - if it's the "wrong" apostates that appear in court.

    If I, Norman Hovland or Jan Haugland should appear in a court, The Watchtower pays the bill for their member. They have done so in the past. Let's hope the assholes keep paying - because they have a nasty habit of loosing if we do :))

    Yakki Da

    Kent

    "The only difference between God and Adolf Hitler is that God is more proficient at genocide."

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  • Fredhall
    Fredhall

    Kent,

    It is sad that they have to pay for themselve so they can fight against a lard-ass like you.

  • philo
    philo
    I will set a muzzle as a guard to my own mouth

    What a pity the GB doesn't take its own advice.

    philo

  • AMNESIAN
    AMNESIAN

    Hi Brother Maximus:

    Does anyone remember the elders' meeting with the district overseer who read a MS in which they were told to respond to subpoenas? Nothing would be found in the files, however! Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

    No, afraid I don't "remember." What was the instruction? What does "MS" represent in this context?

    One DO tells me he read it loyally, asked to make sure everyone got it, but he saw the stricken faces of some who realized that moral fiber had just weakened.

    What do you mean, please, by this?

    Others were caught up in war strategy.

    Sorry, but, this one escapes me, too. What is meant by this?

    He has been troubled since that day onward.

    Troubled in what way, by what exactly?

    Wonder how the public will feel about this attitude? And the courts? Maybe not all copies were destroyed ...

    Maximus, what do you mean by this? I don't wish to offend but I don't often clearly understand your posts. They seem weighty and full of import, but as I have never been an "insider" ---of the disqualified genitalia class, I'm afraid---I am often left at sea trying to decipher your hazy allusions.

    No offense intended, just hoping to benefit from what you and others seem to have to offer here. It is why we come, no?

    Thanks.

    -AMNESIAN

  • rubberducky
    rubberducky

    Thank you Kent, for posting this info. As I read through it, I am reminded of Paul's words about the 'Superior Authorities' at Romans 13:1-4. I hear an underlying fear of prosecution (not persecution) that echoes in a lot of the writings to 'Bodies of Elders'.

    The import of these particular docuements seems to be an attempt to prevent individuals from appealing to the 'Superior Authorities' as "God's minister, an avenger to express wrath upon the one practicing what is bad." vs 4

    I wonder if this is not 'docuementary evidence' of what vs 2 speaks of, that those who take a stand against this 'arrangement of God' "will receive judgement to themselves."

    I pray that it will be sooner rather than later.

    My first 'quack' after 2 months of lurking.

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Welcome and a big quack to you, rubberducky. Glad you finally decided to jump in the lake! We're glad to see you.

    Cheers,
    Ozzie

    "There are two ways of moving men, interest and fear" Napoleon

  • Kent
    Kent

    Hi there, rubberducky welcome to our pool!
    Yup, these bastards in the Legal Dep needs to get their "secrets" published all over the world.

    Anyone that do have such letters, or any other "confidential" records, please send them to me. I would be happy to publish them on the Watchtower Observer!

    Yakki Da

    Kent

    "The only difference between God and Adolf Hitler is that God is more proficient at genocide."

    Daily News On The Watchtower and the Jehovah's Witnesses:
    http://watchtower.observer.org

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