Native American Artifacts (page 3)

desbah

Even what we call "indian mounds" in this part of the country are nothing more than native american trash piles. Not cerimonial or burial sites.

i realized you might consider them "trash piles"...my point is that most ppl start off looking for arrowheads and progress to graverobbing just to possess native american artifacts and that's a real problem out here.

thats why our tribe will not let anyone obtain a permit, lease or build until the land has a archaeological clearance.

i have experience living close to the land by hauling precious water and attending to livestock. and when i do go to one of the scared mountains to make my offering to mother earth, i leave my offerings on the ground or on a tree.

so u see some of these artifacts you and your buddies find are offering to mother earth, to bless the earth, the sky above and its creatures below...thats why its never used again.

your hertitage is really about who you are and knowing your grandfather's clan is a start for you to finding out who you are and where you came from.

peace be with you,

desbah

RichieRich

I agree with what IP said.

I don't mean to insult anyone, but letting those artifacts lay out in the middle of nowhere doesn't really honor them in my mind.

I would rather be able to pass them on to my children and so on like they were passed on to me.

pc

Hey Rich.. My Grandma was part Chickasaw. They were from Mississippi. I think I have maybe 1/8 or less ..

desbah

i feel like this is a huge culture difference, so you see, i really don't feel the need to collect artifacts like arrowheads because i know my culture and my respect for balance and harmony in nature...if you feel the need to possess such items to fulfill your lives so be it.

peace be with you,

desbah

upside/down

I found a big granite stone ax while digging in my yard in Harlan, Iowa. Still have it.

I'm puzzled how they made it... the rock isn't native to the area and is hard as....well....granite!

u/d (of the dumber than a caveman class)

sonnyboy

My stepfather had a huge collection of artifacts that he'd been amassing his entire life. He had spear, arrow, and ax heads as well as various tools for making weapons, jewlery, etc. Some of the things were so odd that we didn't even know what they were, and everything was in spectacular condition. There must have been over 1,500 pieces in all, most of which were kept in two large stacks of acrylic cases, and others were displayed on the wall of his computer room. Some were quite large and they were collected from all over the country (he was a truck driver for 20 years).

That idiot sold it all a couple years ago for only $2000. I could have sold just ONE of those pieces on eBay for nearly that much! I began comparing old pictures to those on greedBay, and the collection would have went for well over $20,000.

RichieRich

thats why our tribe will not let anyone obtain a permit, lease or build until the land has a archaeological clearance.

So when give it "archaelogical clearance" what do they do with the artifacts they find?

I'm sure they put away to be appreciated, and as a gift to the next generation.

While I'm only 1/64 Native American, I still appreciate that heritage, and try to broaden my horizons in that direction.

i really don't feel the need to collect artifacts like arrowheads because i know my culture and my respect for balance and harmony in nature...if

This is the thing, I don't know this culture, this is my effort to grasp it. However, I do have a very solemn repsect for balance and harmony in nature.

dh

i have some friends living in yosemite who are always finding arrowheads on their property.

avishai

I'm of two minds on this issue. I think a lot of this stuff should be preserved for future generations. Stuff jut in your backyard, well, it's hard to tell.

When working around archeological sites here, desbah, when we're done cotgorizing one, and don't want anyone messing with it here in CA, we usually map it and plant over it with a nice, thick patch of poison oak. And then it DEFINITELY stays unmolested. Simple, to the ppoint, and nobody even realizes it's there.

desbah

"archaelogical clearance"

if they find any artifacts on your land permit or homesite application the tribe will not let you build on that area...you have to find somewhere else to build....if it's a major archaelogical find they will bring in the experts to do a dig and your permit will be denied to build any type of structure. the tribe will not disturb these areas but they do make note of them and inform the resource department.

i understand your wanting to hold on to something that belongs in the past...but sometimes like that guy posted before you, his dad had a hold lot of native american artifacts and he's saying it got sold underprice. it's not about the money....its about the respect. and i think if you pass your collection on to your family members they have to understand that's its about respect for what it represents.

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