Diets, Double-Cheeseburgers and Dragons (Warning: Fluff Alert)

by jeanniebeanz 39 Replies latest jw friends

  • luna2
    luna2

    LMAO at the evil dragon twin....I know the feeling well. I have a tendancy to skip meals, especially breakfast. I'm never hungry first thing in the morning, but I'm working on eating at least a piece of fruit.

    I have learned not to leave the house hungry (if I can help it) or I'll do terrible things at the grocery store and get home with all kinds of junk that my evil twin has forced me to buy. Have even had a few of those fast food zombie purchases.

    The apple in the car is a good idea...I don't like apples, though, so I'll have to think of a substitute.

    Good job on the 22lbs off!

  • littlerockguy
    littlerockguy

    Jeannie:

    Good luck on your diet. Mine starts this week. This morning me and some coworkers are competing on how can lose the most weight in the coming months. We are all pitching in a $1 a week and weighing in about every 2 to 3 weeks and at the end of the month whoever loses the most wins. I weighed in at 197 (UGH!!!!); but I know I can lose at least 20 pounds. I want to try for 40. Wish me luck. BTW, Im doing the low carb diet.

  • Markfromcali
    Markfromcali
    The three miles takes me a little more than an hour to complete as it is and I can't jog or run; blown out knees.

    That is why I like those elliptical machines, low impact on your joints. I prefer the models with handles and a heart rate monitor, they automatically adjust the resistance level to maintain your target heart rate. BTW, I'm someone who didn't want to belong to a gym for a long time, but I get a deal through work so I finally signed up at Gold's. In fact, when I had injured my knee years ago it was when I was working with a trainer trying to do all the cardio outdoors. But as far as your knees, what happend? There may be something you can do to strengthen them besides exercise. As far as fearing fats is concerned, it should be noted that they help your skin - and I'm sure you want your skin to look good. I've noticed that my skin gets dry when my fatty acid intake is off balance. But it's just important to understand that your body needs them to function properly, it's not so simple as taking them out or cutting back on them. And of course as was pointed out before, you need to look at how well you burn for the complete picture. Suppose that extra 200 calories you cut out is putting you into starvation mode so you burn less. I don't know what kind of ratio we're looking at, but I think it's safe to say you're going to burn a lot less than those 200 calories. The net result then is you will be retaining more by cutting those calories than if you DIDN'T cut them, even if you are eating them in the first place. So how well you burn (whether you're in starvation mode or not) is just as important as how much you eat, and I'm not going to risk reducing the amount I burn by getting too close to starvation mode. Besides, it just wouldn't be good for you and you'd feel bad I'm sure.

  • jeanniebeanz
    jeanniebeanz

    Luna,

    LOL at Zombie purchases. hahaha Is that what she was then, a Zombie!

    Littlerockguy,

    Congrats on the start of your diet. I've got to tell you that the first thing I did when I started mine was to go through the pantry and the fridge and throw away every thing that I knew was a no-no. For guys, from what I understand, ice-cream is the hardest to give up. If it's the same for you as it is for my husband, I discovered that those orange-creame bars are the most economical calorie wise with only 60 calories per bar. I have some in the freezer and they've come in handy during his ice-creame crisis. Good luck! These guys are right though on the 1,200 calorie floor; when I've gone below for more than a day or two, I've felt like crap. My husband does better at about 1,400 or so.

    Mark,

    Yes, the eliptical machines are cool, but as we have three people living in a 980 sq ft townhouse, there just isn't the room for any exercise equipment and I cannot for the life of me make myself go to the gym. Especially since I look like the 'chubby one' right now. Besides, there are far too many 'demonized mirrors' in those places... lol

    J

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    Jeannie, Looking at your table with the Fat content the essential ones come under the poly(unsaturated)ones but I still think 20 grams of total fat is a little low but it's your diet so it depends how you feel while on it.

    I am doing 1800 calories with 100 minutes of walking every day since 8th of June and I feel fine up to now. I cut out chocolates, cakes, biscuits(cookies) crisps(chips) and nuts. Icecream a eat occasionally. Then the rest I can eat to that ceiling of 1800 calories. I can't stand unnaturally low fat foods such as skimmed milk, low fat yog, cheeses etc

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman

    As I've mentioned several times on this forum, I've lost a considerable amount of weight (now around 180 lb.). The key, for me was the Weight Watchers program. I joined after losing about 23 lb. just by cutting back, eating more salads, etc. and have lost just about 157 lb. on the program itself. My wife joined at the same time I did and she has lost about 60 lb. We may be in Weight Watchers magazine before much longer; I'll let you know if that develops.

    The reason I mention all this is not so much to brag (well, maybe a little ) as to point out that I see on this thread a lot of analysis of fats, proteins, oils, etc. that lead ultimately to where the WW program ends up: eat a balanced diet consisting of all major food groups, keeping one's food intake within reasonable limits according to one's present weight. On this program, I rarely feel "full" in the way I used to after a Chinese buffet lunch, but at the same time, I am rarely overly hungry either. And when I do feel hungry, there are options. Aside from those Chinese buffets and fast food places, there is little I have had to give up, but everything has been adjusted. I am, for example, arguably addicted to ice cream. I used to eat a salad bowl full of the premium stuff nearly every evening. I still have ice cream pretty much daily, but now it's the Smart Ones treats (or similar products in other brands), which fit nicely into the points structure of the program. For lunches, since I am on the road most of the time, I eat at Subway or Quizno's, both of which have low-points sandwiches. I do both the shopping and the cooking in the house, so I can control portion sizes and which products we use.

    My wife has compiled and passed out some tips that several of the members of our WW group have found to be really helpful, so I'll offer them here:

    · In your house, only have things that keep you focused on loosing weight. If others in the household don’t need to loose weight, they can benefit by having healthy foods to eat. Just plan larger quantities for them. Treats can be obtained on an occasional basis (maybe outside of the house).

    · Bring your points finder to the grocery store. Read labels and calculate the points before you put it in the cart.

    · When buying meat or fish, buy only enough in one package to make one meal.

    · If you aren’t going to be using meats or fish soon, repackage them into one meal or one serving sized packages. Label them with the date and weight. Place them so that they lie flat in the freezer. This decreases the time it takes to get it cooked. With hamburger, make a large patty for use with tacos, etc.

    · Use spray oil (we use olive oil for everything). Either buy it in a can or get a pump bottle.

    · Use chicken broth, beef broth or clam juice to add additional moisture to meats/fish cooked in the frying pan. The additional moisture helps to distribute the spices evenly. We keep a plastic spout bottle in the refrigerator with chicken broth.

    · To speed up meal preparation time, defrost the meat/fish in the microwave.

    · To jazz up meat/fish, use dry spices. Beware of salt content of some spice blends or use them sparingly.

    · Broil, grill or pan cook meat/fish for quick meals.

    · Only cook enough for the people sitting down at the one meal, if possible.

    · If you cook a large batch of something, package it for the freezer in one meal sized or one serving sized packages.

    · Idaho potatoes are quick and delicious baked in the microwave. We do sweet potatoes this way too, but it takes longer.

    · Buy frozen vegetables. They are probably healthier and they are certainly quicker to the table.

    · If you are hungry, eat your vegetables or salad while you are cooking the other things for the meal. You could even include another vegetable for the table.

    · We always sit at the table to eat meals. No TV, just conversation (even if we don’t talk much).

    · Timing is everything. If you are cooking something, like rice, which takes awhile, start it first.

    · Make snacks available. Grapes should be in a bowl on the counter cut into serving sized bunches. Or have other fruits out.

    · Freeze juice in ice cube trays for a quick kids treat or to put into seltzer on a hot summer day.

    · Look at the way you eat, determine what is important to you and give yourself permission to have it. For example, Tom likes ice cream, so we have WW ice cream sandwiches and Fat Free Cool Whip in the freezer and 0 points chocolate sauce in the refrigerator. He likes to snack after dinner, so we have popcorn, WOW chips and salsa, etc. I have to have chocolate, so we have Hershey’s Nuggets in the refrigerator. Breakfast is important to me, so I have oatmeal and a banana or other fruit most days.

    · Buy frozen fruit, especially pineapple, for a cool treat.

  • jeanniebeanz
    jeanniebeanz

    Neon,

    I've lost a considerable amount of weight (now around 180 lb.).

    Dude! Congratulations Man! That is outstanding!

    Weight Watchers is a good program, I got tired of counting the points myself but did well with it a year ago. I think that is what Mulan is doing for her weight-loss.

    Amazing...

    J

  • LouBelle
    LouBelle

    THAT was very entertaining - I had a good chuckle.. This whole losing weight things is for the birds you know that. I'm going back to gyming - I need to work my frustrations out someway, might as well opt for the healthier route.

  • Markfromcali
    Markfromcali


    I think it's important to keep in mind that the whole point is health and fitness, losing weight just happens when we get healthier. It's certainly important to eat right as well as exercise right, but we can start with general principles rather than a lot of details to remember. As we get into this healthier lifestyle we will pick up the details along the way.

    It's funny that I have yet to see someone work out as hard as I do at the gym, which isn't to say I am in great shape, because some people do go faster - but when I am drenched in sweat and nobody else is that just tells me they are not getting as close to their maximum capacity as I am. I don't say that to advocate an extreme effort or anything, (btw I do replace a lot of fluids and electrolyte afterward) but I think with a lot of people they kind of do their routine and their heart is just not really in it.

    What I say is why not just make it count, instead of just kind of showing up and getting by? If you're going to exercise just really do it, I probably average 80-90% of the maximum target heart rate, but they say 65% is enough to burn fat. It doesn't have to be physical energy, putting the thought into meal planning for the day or just thinking about these things throughout the day will certainly help you in the long run. It's just the difference between the attitude of "yeah... it would be nice to get in shape.. lose some weight... I guess I should eat better... exercise.." and then doing one or two things one time and forgetting about it, vs. just decisively making the decision "I'm going to do it, I'm going to find out what it takes and get into it." To me it isn't about an emotional motivation like "OHHH MY GOD I am SO FAT!" etc. or some cheerleaderish kind of optimism, but it's just a very matter of fact attitude, like you would have with work and business because you gotta get things done.

  • Markfromcali
    Markfromcali
    I cannot for the life of me make myself go to the gym. Especially since I look like the 'chubby one' right now. Besides, there are far too many 'demonized mirrors' in those places... lol

    Jeannie, I think it may be that the right gym would make a difference. For example Gold's has a reputation for being serious, (naturally it would all vary, you have to check specific ones) and I do see people who are pretty big so people of all ages and fitness levels are there. You might also feel better in a women's gym for that matter.

    The other thing is to succeed in the long run you have to filter out external influences anyway, because we know there are plenty that are not conducive to a healthy lifestyle. (advertisement, peer pressure - you name it) The same would apply to anything that makes you self conscious in the gym, what you're doing is not anybody else's business but your own.

    So you can minimize that by finding the right environment, and then part of it is just up to you. Part of the reason why I work out as hard as I do is I do approach it like it's nobody's business, (because, of course, it isn't) and that earns the respect of people who recognize it for what it is and are serious about fitness rather than some kind of personal judgement. And if you are in a place where people are not there to socialize (and I consider BSing about the subject of fitness soclializing, when it becomes talk and people hang out instead of work out) then that can be done.

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