The few I had dealings with were arseholes, our congragations had elders whos philosophy towards children was if they talk or move give them a hiding, The amount of kids I knew in just my congo who were severely beaten was unbelieveable. As for the rest of them I dont give a shit how nice, polite, indeferent, kind, evil, compassionate they are at one time or another they have heard the wrongs that have been done, and mostly do nothing.
Pete