by rambaldi 29 Replies latest jw friends
Have you ever read Crisis of Conscience in fact no...have you ever read anything recently other than what was spoonfed to you through the WTS?
If you are going to 'silence the critics' do so with some real critical thought rather than some half assed effort.
Sorry mate we will need more than you are giving to silence us; in fact why would you want to silence us? Do our criticisms cause you harm, is it wrong to criticise?
DB74
:Why would it be any different for this UN DPI thing? The Department of Public Information is simply that - A place to get information. Nothing more.
So is attending another Church. Go visit one and then tell the elders you did, and watch your sorry butt kicked out of the KH in a New York minute.
The WTS has repeatedly said that the UN, ALL of the UN is the "beast" and those that have anything to do with it are wicked. If you don't see the hypocrisy in that statement, then take your blinders off and dust off your brain.
Farkel
Robert You Know Who I mean - where are you? Come back, all is almost forgiven.
Funny, HS!
ram, do you really believe it yourself.
if you do, then do someting like tat yourself and see if you get disfellowshipped or not...
Danny
Rambaldi,
I will leave the UN answer to the ones who already answered it so well. The comment I will make is what you said about JW's renting arenas and such with the US and other flags hanging.
Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t find a problem with those flags hanging there.
Believe me.........if they could.........they would take them down. But the LAW says that All public buildings must have a US flag.
When I was on the building committee for a KH it was explained to us that the US flag MUST be in the building, but it wasn't necessary to have it prominently displayed. It was allowed to be in the Library or even in a corner of the coat room. And my state also requires all public buildings to have the State flag also.
The flag would be gone in a minute if it wasn't LAW.
Seems to me that you need more education on your own religion. Don't just accept the force feeding without wondering why and examining the motives.
HappyDad
This is not a flag issue.
If a JW associated with the YMCA they would be disfellowshipped even if they were only using the swimming pool.
Young Mens Christian Association = United Nations
Swimming pool = library
So by associating with the UN and agreeing to promote its agenda the WTS was a hypocrite. These requirements were spelled out in the agreement the WTS representative signed and these requirements did not change for the ten years the WTS associated with the UN as an non-governmental organization (NGO).
Hypocristy at its clearest by the WTS.
Because there are forms that needed to fill out does not change those prior statements.
Have you read those forms? There's a lot in there that any R&F JW would have a problem with. Not to mention the fact that not only did they sign these forms, they actually kept up their end of the bargain by promoting UN ideals.
Heck if filling out a form is no big deal, then I am sure buying a political card that everyone is required to have is no big deal. Someone should have told that to all the brothers in Malawi back in the 60s/70s.
No Apologies
The Department of Public Information is simply that - A place to get information. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with support anymore than the flags hanging at the conventions mean that everyone is pledging allegiance to those flags. Because there are forms that needed to fill out does not change those prior statements.
Let's switch this up a tad:
The YMCA is simply a place to get some physical activity. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with support anymore than the flags hanging at the conventions mean that everyone is pledging allegiance to those flags. Because there are forms that needed to fill out does not change those prior statements.
Yet, oddly enough, a JW who gets a membership at the local "Y" to use the fitness facilities can find that he or she is announced as no longer being one of Jehovah's Witnesses due to their actions, while the WTS can engage in similar actions and have no one question them? This double standard is what gets them into trouble. If they want to associate with the UN, fine, whatever. Just don't penalize anyone else for associating with entities that also are supposedly at counter-purposes with Jehovah's Heavenly Government™.
The WTS also criticizes
MORMONS - who forbid caffeine - for having huge shares in Coca Cola, a drink containing caffeine.
CATHOLIC Church - which forbids contraception - yet has huge share holdings in pharmaceuticals producing the pill, and condom factories.
United Churches of America for "tolerating" same sex unions, when for years they put up with gay GB members. (Didi they GO to heaven by the way?) See the Olin Moyle trial transcript (you won't -you are probably a coward ) Oh!!! and did you know the WTS profits from missile and war plane companies - again, it's all there for you to see.
So when other churches joined the UN on the same basis they were whores. WTS does and they are not????? Oh sorry - I forgot in the hebrew scriptures only women could be whores... they are just buggers.
HB
Honey you should do stand up.
The organization is lead by Jesus Christ through the Governing Body.
Tell ya what... biblically prove this WTBTS lie (hint: MT24:45-47 is just a parable; a comparison of a faithful servant and an unfaithful servant of Jesus) and I will crawl through the doors of the Walland, TN Kingdom Hall and beg them to forgive me for saying the Governing Body are apostates.
