Any coloured people here? (page 3)

Soledad

I know my mom (black, from the West Indies) had some issues as a child and young adult because of her skin color. The JWs never treated her badly, that much credit I can give them. My skin tone resembles a mosaique pattern, a little of everything!

Honesty

He even served the darky his supper.

Say Whaaaat?

Elsewhere

Hey, some of my best friends are white

Here's to honkies and coloured folk friends!

Kenneson

Well, I'm definitely not a blue-eyed blonde.

AllAlongTheWatchtower

Something I thought was pretty cute I saw on the net once:

A black man walks into a diner somewhere in the south (US) and sits down. Soon a waiter comes, sees him and frowns. Umm, I'm afraid you're going to have to leave. Colored folk aren't allowed here.

The black man looks at the waiter and says sir, I am black. When I was born I was black. If I go in the sun, I am black. If I get sick, I am black. If I get cold I am black.

Now YOU on the other hand, were born pink. If you go in the sun, you turn red. If you get sick, you turn green. If you get cold, you turn blue. Now who the hell are you calling colored?

The waiter handed him a menu and walked away without a word.

(AATW, of the white stripes half of a zebra class)

dorayakii

their race is meek and teachable

I've got no objection to the word "coloured", it silly to get hung up over a simple designation. Its the "meek and teachable" part that seems a bit strange to me... i'm still trying to figure out what they could have meant by that...

Are chinese, whites or indians not meek and teachable in comparison?
Does it mean that we blacks just accept being spoon fed by the GB without questioning anything, that we are gullible?
Does the statement apply to African Americans alone?...
...or can it be in reference to West Indians, British Caribbeans and Sub-Saharan Africans as well?

All i can say is they've got a bloody cheek to write something like that in their literature and then expect people to still believe they are "God's only channel" of communication on the earth. The comment was part of an article defending the "tolerance" of racial segregation at conventions. The paragraph continues:

What if the worldly wise and powerful and noble look down on them as foolish and weak and ignoble, not on an equality with self-exalted whites? It is to God’s ultimate honor, for he confounds the wise of this world by choosing those the world considers foolish and weak and ignoble.

Is it not considering them "weak and ignoble" to not allow them to sit next to whites at the convention?... If "teachable" is indeed took to mean "gullible" i would think the "meek and teachable" statement also comes under the category of considering them "weak and ignoble"... And what of the black members of the 144,000? Were they having a ot of input into what was going in the magazines in 1952?... Oh well, yet another F&DS example of Balaam's "talking ass" so what can you do?...

ithinkisee

Their race is meek and teachable

This is because they probably didn't have much schooling in general.

Funny, that is the impression I got from the District COnvention that is how they want ALL JW's to be - unlearned, uneducated, teachable.

-ithinkisee

Hellrider

Ok, you thought that first one was sick? How about this one:

" 1914 "THE COLOR LINE FOUND NECESSARY. WE might have anticipated that many colored people would be deeply interested in THE PHOTO-DRAMA OF CREATION. But it did not impress itself upon us until gradually their number increased to about twenty-five per cent of the whole audience. Of course, we were glad to see them, glad that they were interested in the DRAMA. We had the same feeling respecting them as others; but it was quickly discerned that it was not a case of feeling, but that, whereas the colored people of New York City are about five per cent of the population, in our audiences they are about twenty-five per cent and the number increasing. What shall we do? As the attendance of the colored people would increase, proportionately the number of the whites would decrease; for explain it how we will, a majority of whites prefer not to intermingle closely with other races. Recognizing that it meant either the success or the failure of the enterprise of the DRAMA as respects the whites, we have been compelled to assign the colored friends to the gallery, which, however, is just as good for seeing and hearing as any other part of The Temple. Some were offended at this arrangement. We have received numerous letters from the colored friends, some claiming that it is not right to make a difference, others indignantly and bitterly denouncing us as enemies of the colored people. Some, confident that Brother Russell had never sanctioned such a discrimination, told that they believe it would be duty to stand up for equal rights and always to help the oppressed, etc. We were obliged to explain the facts, assuring all of our loving interest in the colored people, and of our desire to do them good, and not injury. We again suggested that if a suitable place could be found in which the DRAMA could be presented for the benefit of the colored people alone, we would be glad to make such arrangements, or to co-operate with any others in doing so. Our explanations were apparently entirely satisfactory to all of the fully consecrated. To these we explained that it is a question of putting either the interests of God's Cause first, or else the interests of the race first. We believed it our duty to put God first and the Truth first - at any cost to others or to ourself! We explained that we thought that all the colored brethren should know our attitude toward them - they should know that we love to serve them in any way possible and to give them the very best we have to give of the Gospel Message; and that it is only a question of whether our giving to them in one way would deprive us of giving the Truth to others. Some who were still tenacious and quarrelsome we merely reminded of our Lord's declaration that in inviting visitors into the house it is the place of the host to say where they shall sit, and then we showed them the parable of the man who chose the chief seat of honor and was given a lower one. In answer to the query as to how our course of conduct squared with the Golden Rule, we replied that it squares exactly. We would wish others to put God first. If our personal interests are or ever have been in conflict with the real and apparently best interests of the Lord's Cause, it is a part of our consecration vow to ignore our interests in favor of the interests of the Lord's Cause. This is what we mean by the declaration that we are dead to self and alive to our God as New Creatures. We reminded one dear sister that the Lord enjoins humility, and assures us that unless we humble ourselves we shall not be exalted. If nature favors the colored brethren and sisters in the exercise of humility it is that much to their advantage, if they are rightly exercised by it. A little while, and our humility will work out for our good. A little while, and those who shall have been faithful to their Covenant of Sacrifice will be granted new bodies, spiritual, beyond the veil, where color and sex distinctions will be no more. A little while, and the Millennial Kingdom will be inaugurated, which will bring Restitution to all mankind - restitution to the perfection of mind and body, feature and color, to the grand original standard, which God declared "very good," and which was lost for a time through sin, but which is soon to be restored by the powerful Kingdom of Messiah. {WT Apr 1 1914 110-1}"

...So don`t worry, coloured folks, you`ll all be white in the Kingdom to come! God, that one is just insane!

DannyBloem

- jehovah is a racist bigot
- they don't have jehovah's blessing.
i tend to go with the former rather than the latter.
Well, after reading the OT, I would more agree with the first actually

Is the word 'colored' now seen as a racist word. Just a question from a non english speaker....

As for me (as if anyone would care) I am probably some european mix, with slightly asian influence, although hard to say. not much known about my ancesters.

Danny

DannyBloem

Actually I did not find the remar in the opening post shocking.

You can say a lot of things about the JW cult, but I do not think they are racists.

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