What Would Happen If the Governing Body Started Another DF Campain at Bethel???
Would all hell break loose????
Wht Wld Happen If the Governing Body Started Another DF'n Campain at Bethel
by frankiespeakin 18 Replies latest jw friends
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NeonMadman
Probably not, as long as they retained control of the printing presses.
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frankiespeakin
I don't think they could get away with what they did to Edward Dunlap and his wife back in 1980.
I think if they DF'd any old timer and threw them out into the street like they did to Ed Dunlap or Ray Franz that many would rise up in revolt and they would have very serious trouble on thier hands. -
frankiespeakin
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diamondblue1974
If they were to have a clear out their classic manipulation technique is to label them as apostates; none of the rank and file would prepared to listen to them in any manner of speaking once they have been given that label...I only mentioned Ray Franz to my mother and she initially didnt know who he was and was interested in his experiences...as soon as she was told he was an apostate....shutters flew down and barriers were up....such words strike fear into the heart of the rank and file...its another of their mind control techniques...demonise everything that the society doesnt approve of...people will avoid it without question.
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avishai
What makes you think that? JW's are raised to think ANYONE is disposable/replaceable. Cogs in a machine......Meet the new boss same as the old boss. People in the org. are just as dumb now as they were then. That's why they are still in.
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luna2
In our congregation here, there was an old missionary couple. Very involved in Poland back in the 60's and 70's I think...they knew many at Bethel from way back, and I can recall after bookstudy one evening, a discussion about various people and past events at Bethel and Patterson, as well as some experiences from when they were serving in eastern Europe.
I remember that they spoke briefly about a highly placed Bethel brother being DF'd and given $10K as sort of severence pay for his long years of service. They spoke about it as though it was a loving provision by the GB, but I could tell they were troubled about the whole episode even tho quite some time had passed since the event had occurred (this was in the early 90's). I, of course, didn't know wtf they were talking about (now I know it was Ray Franz and others) and they wouldn't say anything specific. You could tell that even though the DFing of these brothers and sisters still ate at them, they considered it a test of faith and loyalty to the GB not to question too much.
I'd imagine that even today you'd have some that felt as they did...puzzled, sick at heart, worried...but determined to be faithful and loyal dubs to the end. Its that persecution mentality...when bad stuff happens, it almost make's some dubs happy because they get a chance to prove themselves. Also, I know that scripture about the "love of the greater number cooling off" plays in their heads when other JW's DA themselves or get DF'd. Some take these things as a sign that the end is nigh and not that something is rotten in Brooklyn.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Remember, Ray Franz was not DF'd when he left Bethel and was given the 10K. He was DF'd a few months later by a congregation in Alabama when he ate lunch with a brother who was disassociated. Just a technicality.
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jula71
JW's are raised to think ANYONE is disposable/replaceable.
Remember, "even the stones would cry out!" It wouldn't cause many waves. The R & F would see it as a sign of the end, the org is being cleansed.
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blondie
I think if they DF'd any old timer and threw them out into the street like they did to Ed Dunlap or Ray Franz that many would rise up in revolt and they would have very serious trouble on thier hands.
No, frankie, just the opposite would happen. If any people spoke out in 1980, no one would now. Everyone would go into the self-preservation mode. People who speak up now just get axed at the knees and tossed aside and it doesn't matter what their status in the WTS. I have seen it happen. The ones at Bethel just keep their mouths shut. People with integrity have been weeded out and the ones that do have integrity that go to Bethel, leave within a year or two or give in and fall in line with the system. The WTS is always right even when they are wrong. They have said it enough that even if you were right about the point, you are wrong not to wait for God to correct it. The Uzzah principle.
Blondie