CRAZY MEAN JW MOTHER IN LAW

by littlehousefan 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • littlehousefan
    littlehousefan

    I need your help on this one, big time! I am new to this but I like reading everyone's posts on here.. I need advice. Sorry this is so long but if you feel like you could please read it!

    I was never a Jehovah's Witness. My husband was raised one, and left the Watchtower before he and I got married. I was raised a Christian in a non-denominational Bible church and acknowledge Jesus Christ as my Savior and Lord. Anyway, his parents and the rest of his family are all still JWs, and we don't have any contact with them. However, there's a strange twist to our story, because the choice to not associate with each other was his, not theirs. They would love to talk to him - however, only in an attempt to indocrinate him back into the Watchtower. We have tried to be friendly, but every single time, they say negative things and tell us how they know we're unhappy and that we'd be much happier if we "did the right religion." Also, they were very abusive to Matt (my husband) when he was a child up until he was a teenager. They used to beat him with leather belts, paint stirrers, hairbrushes, wooden spoons, etc. They used drugs prior to his birth and when he was a baby. They ignored him, and sometimes would even pick up and leave him and his siblings for days when he was just a child (4, 5, 6 years old, etc). They were extremely neglectful, sometimes not even providing food, medical care, clothing. They practically had nothing. Basically, they are just awful, wicked people, doing the work of satan. For a long, long time I was extremely bitter and angry at them. I called his mother a drug addict and blew up at her and screamed at her several times. We haven't talked to them or seen them for about 8 months, but yesterday I was feeling rather guilty about what I had done. I felt bad, and I felt I was not being a very good witness of Jesus Christ. When I yelled at her, I didn't model behavior that was like Jesus'. I believe that I had every right to be angry with them because of how they treated my husband - but I don't think that resorting to name-calling was a very good example for them. So even though they are the ones who abused him for years and years and treated their ANIMALS better than him (they have 4 cats and 2 horses and the animals would eat when the kids wouldn't, and they beat their kids but wouldn't dare lay a hand on any of the animals!), and they literally treated him like a piece of trash and said all kinds of horrible, sick things about me, I called them yesterday and talked to his mother and apologized for the way I acted. I said "Any hurt that I personally may have caused you, I apologize for." She then said "I'm sorry, too." We then went on to have a conversation. She told me what she and her husband had been up to, her husband's job, the animals, etc. And I told her some basic things about my husband and me, that we got a new car, that my husband likes his job and our church, about a concert we went to, etc. She also asked why my husband didn't want to talk to them anymore. The reason is that they abused him and never acknowledge it, and if he tries to be friendly with them or talk to them about JWs or his new beliefs or anything, they get angry and try to tell him what he's missing and verbally harass him. But I didn't say that. I just said "Well, he said that he feels like you don't listen to him." Which is true, I mean it kind of sums it up but it doesn't go into a lot of details. He would just like to TALK about his childhood and get some answers and would like them to apologize and to forgive them, but they flat out deny it or scream and get angry. He would like to share things about Jesus with them, but they rip up anything he has given them. They want to communicate with him, but only on THEIR terms. But I just said "Well, he said that he feels like you don't listen to him."
    Anyway... now I am feeling like maybe I did the wrong thing. I thought that calling her up and apologizing for anything I had done or said would be a good thing, the right thing to do, and that it would make me feel better. But now I feel like I sold out my husband. Like I let her off too easy. I mean, as my husband says, what kind of parent is this? She's no parent. He says that she doesn't deserve to know anything about him and his life, because she's not even like a parent, and that no one owes her any explanation or update on his life. But that's basically what I gave her yesterday, an update on our lives and what we're doing together. And I didn't tell her all of the horrible things she did to him in the past. It's like I let her off the hook, and she didn't deserve that. She should know what a horrible person she is, and she should know what Matt thinks of her, and she should sit there wondering what he's up to and not being able to know. And I just gave in and told her, and I told her that it bothers me that we don't all talk and have a nice relationship. Plus my husband is pretty upset about what I did. He doesn't want her to have any idea what he's doing, anything about his life, and she didn't until I opened my big mouth and called her.
    I don't know what to do or think or feel. I feel horrible! I thought apologizing was the right thing, but now I feel really bad about THAT, too. I feel like I betrayed my husband, and also that I let this evil woman who beat my husband and didn't protect him and love him off the hook. This is a woman that I have harbored pure HATRED for for so long, for a very long time. I wanted nothing more than for her to never hear from us again, and to have no idea what we're doing, and to just be punished forever for her actions and to have to think about them for all eternity. And THEN I called her up and was sweet to her, and I apologized to HER, and I didn't mention one thing about what a horrible evil woman she is. I just told her I was sorry and I wanted to tell her that, and that I hoped one day everything could work out and we could all talk and have a nice relationship.
    WHY, when I hated (and kind of still do) her so much, would I call her and DO this?

    I feel horrible, like she doesn't deserve to know, but now she does. What should I do about this?

    I feel like I really sold my husband out. I wanted to apologize, but I shouldn't have called if I knew he didn't want to talk to them ever again. I thought I was doing the right thing, and it turns out I did a horrible thing. Did I? I won't ever do it again, but please give me some advice on what to do now, what I should do in the future, what to do for my husband to make it up to him, etc.

    Also - what should I do about the fact that now she knows this stuff, and I feel like I let her off the hook and she doesn't deserve to know?

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Wow. I'm so sorry you and your husband have been through all that.

    The words of your apology were not a betrayal of your husband. You only apologized for your own actions, not his.

    I do get really mad at my jw mother when she gives updates on my life to my extended jw relatives, who were physically abusive and to whom I intentionally do not speak. In her case, it's an attempt to force a relationship on me. The other different thing with us is that I've made it perfectly clear that I do not want her to talk about me at all. Is that how your husband feels? Maybe he doesn't even mind.

    But it's done. You can (figuratively) beat yourself up about it, but it won't change anything. It's normal to want to have peace with others and to be close to your family. You acted out of that desire, not out of animosity. I don't think it was wrong of you to do that. We always have times when we look back and realize we might have handled something different--that doesn't mean we did wrong.

    As far as what to do from this point forward, I guess do whatever you feel is in accordance with the type of relationship you'd like to have with her. If you want to go back to not talking and she pesters/asks why, you can honestly say you have reconsidered and feel it's in your best interests not to pursue a relationship. You can mention the real reason (abuse), or not--it really depends upon what your husband wants to be said.

  • Wasanelder Once
    Wasanelder Once

    Littlehousefan,

    This is really something you and your husband should talk about with each other. I think, and let me emphasize to you that this is only what I think, you were taking the higher ground in apologizing. It impresses me you are a caring person with a conscience. The thing that seems to bother you most is that you now see it as not upholding your husband's feelings.You two have each other and that is very secure from the sound of it. I'd stick with that and make each other happy. Remember the bit about "Pearls before Swine?" That seems to fit here. Keep your pearls.

    W.Once

  • avishai
    avishai

    (((((littlehousefan))))



    When you are dealing with someone who has no remorse and is in a religion that enables that and views people as disposable...........your husband knows exactly what he is doing.

    Your parents-in-law have no consequensces in their religion, because, people are disposable. No forgiveness (unless they are jw's), even if they are your kids, hell, chuck' em and get new freinds at the kingdom hall. It allows them to remain emotionally stunted and self righteous. They won't "get better" or "feel remorse" because they just don't operate on the same value system. They have a whole bunch of friends who will enable them and continue to tell them that they are good and you are bad, even if they go on a killing spree every day and you save the world every day, and it gets shown on CNN. The JW's are that warped.

  • Evanescence
    Evanescence

    (((((((Little house fan)))))))

    I feel sorry for your husband having to go through that as a child! poor guy!

    Don't worry to much about the apology you made on the phone, you are simply apologising for your actions.

    Pray to Jesus and ask for guidance maybe this apology you made was influenced by jesus.

    Evanescence

  • katiekitten
    katiekitten

    Welcome to the forum LHF.

    I really feel for you. I feel the same anger on behalf of my partner, although I have to stress he in no way had as bad a deal as your husband. And I want my partner to rub his parents nose in how rubbish they were, but he is loving and kind to them.

    I dont think you should feel guilty at all, you were doing the christian thing in making peace.

    They know deep down that they are crap parents. They dont need you to point it out, and if you did they would resist, defend themselves and argue against it. THen they would spend the rest of the time telling themselves that they are in the right and what a horrible wicked wrong person you are.

    So I think you have actually opened up the way for further dialogue. She was talking to you and listening to you! She EVEN asked why your husband didnt want to talk to them! Thats an amazing opening you made. That opening would never have happened if you had gone in and told them the truth about their rubbish parenting. Now the lines of communication have been opened BY YOU! They can be developed carefully until they are strong enough to carry the tough message that needs to be told.

    I think you may have started something that leads to the result you want. Your partner is lucky to have such a clever, subtle and loving wife. Well done.

  • talesin
    talesin

    Welcome!

    Hey, Jesus got really angry sometimes ... remembe the money-changers in the temple? So, s'okay to get angry when it's justified (which it was). Also, I agree with the others, you took the 'high road'. Talk it over with your mate, make a plan for future actions.

    tal

  • Evanescence
    Evanescence

    I agree with Talesin,

    There is Sinful anger and there is Righteous anger...

    Evanescence

  • Scully
    Scully
    I felt I was not being a very good witness of Jesus Christ. When I yelled at her, I didn't model behavior that was like Jesus'. I believe that I had every right to be angry with them because of how they treated my husband - but I don't think that resorting to name-calling was a very good example for them.

    Righteous indignation was something that Jesus did very well. Nothing wrong with following his example.

    Luke 19:45-46 (New Living Translation)
    New Living Translation (NLT)

    Jesus Clears the Temple
    45 Then Jesus entered the Temple and began to drive out the merchants from their stalls. 46 He told them, "The Scriptures declare, `My Temple will be a place of prayer,' but you have turned it into a den of thieves." [
    Matthew 23:13, 14 (New International Version)
    New International Version (NIV)
    13 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.14 Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You devour widows' houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Therefore you will be punished more severely.
  • desbah
    desbah

    Welcome littlehousefan

    thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, I feel you are torn apart for betraying your husband by forgiving your mother-in-law. to me you are a better person and I feel you are learning to forgive yourself for what you done.

    your husband someday will forgive his parents and move on, he is holding on to painful memories and once he lets go of them, his parents words and actions will no longer bother him.

    I wish you and your husband peace,

    ~desbah~

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