sex offenders pictures to be put in newspapers

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  • Country Girl
    Country Girl

    My whole take on this is that sex offenders need to be very classified, down to the nines, if possible, on first offenses, and given long terms on them. There are level 4 offenders, which should be monitored, and be required to keep track of their whereabouts for the rest of their lives, and then there are level 1 offenders which took off their bathing suit and jumped from the diving board into the pool naked while there were minors present. Both present different sides of the equation.

    It is well known that pedophiles' recidivism rate is very high, but I should think that if you have pedophiles getting out and then commiting the same crimes, that the first punishment should be very harsh, and the second should result in a life sentence, like Louisiana has. That way, they can be totally kept away from kids for the rest of their lives. It's unfortunate tat most of the time these charges are knocked down to misdemeanors, and these guys get out within 6 months to a year. My thought is that "did it once", it'll be bad. Did it twice, it'll be permanent."

    CG

  • stillconcerned
    stillconcerned

    At present, there is not a single state in the US which would list a college 'streaker' as a sexual offender.

    Also, most states require a significant age difference between sexual partners before the tag "sexual offender" is placed on the older participant.

    Kimberlee D. Norris

    attorney at law

  • nilfun
    nilfun

    Thanks for the explanation and clearing up some misconceptions, Stillconcerned.

  • katiekitten
    katiekitten

    The problem is there is aways some good reason why something wont work.

    Its true there was a guy in England who was outed as a nonce in a national paper along with some others, and the neighbours made his like hell until he killed himself. Turned out he was totally innocent. He just looked like one of the nonces in the paper.

    Oddly I was going to post about this today because on the radio this morning there was a story of a 14yr old in Manchester (its ALWAYS Salford isnt it?) who had raped 3 primary school girls after cornering them in a playground.

    Well, if that was my daughter im not sure what id do. I would really want to do some permanent damage to that young man, and I wouldnt trust the legal system to sort it out. Something similar happened to me when I was 9, and the man had done it before to little girls and he didnt get a prison sentence because social services testified that he lived with his mum (he was 43) and was really kind to her. I sometimes toy with the idea of looking him up and giving him the frowning of a lifetime!

  • talesin
    talesin

    Thank you, stillconcerned. This is not an issue where folks should be amusing themselves by bringing up moot points in order to 'yank people's chains', and the clarification was much-needed. I wanted to say something, but didn't have the knowledge of US laws to do so.

    tal

  • nilfun
    nilfun
    This is not an issue where folks should be amusing themselves by bringing up moot points in order to 'yank people's chains', and the clarification was much-needed.

    I didn't observe any chain-yanking on the thread, and I doubt that was anyone's motivation. Obviously, there are some fallacies about this very sensitive issue.

    JWD is very fortunate indeed to have an expert posting here to correct any erroneous beliefs surrounding this subject.

  • IronGland
    IronGland


    At present, there is not a single state in the US which would list a college 'streaker' as a sexual offender.

    Also, most states require a significant age difference between sexual partners before the tag "sexual offender" is placed on the older participant.

    Kimberlee D. Norris

    attorney at law



    Title: He grabbed girl's arm -- now he's a sex offender

    Source: Chicago Sun-Times

    URL Source: http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-molest01.html

    Published: Jul 1, 2005

    Author: Steve Patterson

    Post Date: 2005-07-01 17:36:16 by Defender

    9 Comments

    Fitzroy Barnaby said he had to swerve to avoid hitting the 14-year-old Des Plaines girl who walked in front of his car.

    She said he yelled, "Come here, little girl," before getting out of his car and grabbing her by the arm.

    He said he simply lectured her.

    She said she broke free and ran, fearful of what he'd do next.

    In a Thursday ruling, the Appellate Court of Illinois said the 28-year-old Evanston man must register as a sex offender.

    While acknowledging it might be "unfair for [Barnaby] to suffer the stigmatization of being labeled a sex offender when his crime was not sexually motivated," the court said his actions are the type that are "often a precursor" to a child being abducted or molested.

    Though Barnaby was acquitted of attempted kidnapping and child abduction charges stemming from the November 2002 incident, he was convicted of unlawful restraint of a minor -- which is a sex offense.

    'Most stupid ruling'

    Now, he will have to tell local police where he lives and won't be able to live near a park or school.

    "This is the most stupid ruling the appellate court has rendered in years," said Barnaby's Chicago attorney, Frederick Cohn. "If you see a 15-year-old beating up your 8-year-old and you grab that kid's hand and are found guilty of unlawful restraint, do you now have to register as a sex offender?"

    But Cook County state's attorney spokesman Tom Stanton said Barnaby should have to register "because of the proclivity of offenders who restrain children to also commit sex acts or other crimes against them."

    In the criminal case against him, Cook County Judge Patrick Morse said that "it's more likely than not" Barnaby planned only "to chastise the girl" when he grabbed her, but "I can't read his mind."

    "I don't really see the purpose of registration in this case. I really don't," Morse said. "But I feel that I am constrained by the statute."

    Recognizing the stigma that comes with being labeled as a sex offender, the appellate court said "it is [Barnaby's] actions which have caused him to be stigmatized, not the courts."

    Thank you, stillconcerned. This is not an issue where folks should be amusing themselves by bringing up moot points in order to 'yank people's chains', and the clarification was much-needed.

    **Disclaimer** the above post is not intended to bring up a moot point, amuse myself or yank talesin's chain.

    I wanted to say something, but didn't have the knowledge of US laws to do so.

    Then why would you want to say something?

  • talesin
    talesin


    IG

    I assumed you were being provocative, and I apologize for being an ass.

    Sincerely,

    t

    Edit to clarify,,, just yanking chains in general, not mine. Don't flatter yourself.

    ref: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/90919/1.ashx

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