Other religious viewpoints about paradise

by TheListener 19 Replies latest jw friends

  • TheListener
    TheListener

    One thing I haven't been able to successfully find or understand is how other major religions feel about the end of the system or the final judgement from God.

    I've seen the left behind series. Do protestants in general feel that there will be a literal earth with people on it?

    Do Catholics believe that human spirits will be united with their physical bodies after the final judgement?

    This seems rather basic but it's very dificult to pin down. At least for me.

    Help would be appreciated in this matter.

  • tetrapod.sapien
    tetrapod.sapien

    the use in islam od the term paradise, leads me to think that they think this. i could be mistaken, as i am no where close to getting islam.

    if it is, i find it equally as ridiculous and disturbing as christianity and judaism. rarely do people bother to ask where this post-death paradise is, or will be. i join others in calling this what it is: "mental discontinuity".

  • kazar
    kazar

    Catholics believe in an immortal soul that after death continues life either in heaven, hell, purgatory or limbo and is never reunited with the body but is able to experience emotions, pain and pleasure as the body did.

    The only Protestant religion I know that believes in a ressurection of the body in a paradise earth besides Jehovah's Witnesses is Seventh Day Adventists.

  • Doubtfully Yours
    Doubtfully Yours

    I work with this Baptist lady and they believe when they die they'll go to heaven until the earth is cleaned up and then return and live on earth for ever in a paradise.

    Her faith concentrates more in going to heaven after death and letting God take over from them as to what their purpose will be.

    She's a very nice lady. I like her a lot.

    DY

  • Now What?
    Now What?


    I have recently been looking onto the Catholic side of things and ran across the Catholic explaination in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, part 1 (The Profession of Faith), Article 11 (Resurrction of the Body). Its several pages (paragraphs 988 to 1019) so I will just put up the last few as summary.

    1015 The flesh is the hinge of salvation. We believe in God who is creator of the flesh: we believe in the Word made flesh in order to redeem the flesh: we believe in the resurrection of the flesh, the fulfillment of both the creation and the redemption of the flesh

    1016 By death the soul is separated from the body, but in the resurrection God will give incorruptible life to our body, transformed by reunion with our soul. Just as Christ is risen and lives forever, so all of us will rise at the last day.

    1017 We believe in the true resurrection of this flesh that we now posess. We sow a corruptible body in the tomb, but he raises up an incorruptible body, a spiritual body.

    1018 As a consequence of original sin, man must suffer bodily death, from which man would have been immune had he not sinned.

    1019 Jesus, the Son of God, freely suffered death for us in complete and free submission to the will of God, his Father. By his death he has conquered death, and so opened the possibility of salvation to all men.

    Seems to me that your body dies, but the spirit lives on until the last day when all are united with their bodies once again, but the second time around the body is incorruptible instead of corruptible, and in a paradise garden all over again.

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    The Moslems believe that in paradise they will be able to indulge in carnal pleasures with lots of women, servants and good food so for them this paradise is a physical thing.

  • jaffacake
    jaffacake

    Just to add to what Kazaa said, when I was an adventist, I think the teaching was the 1000 years on earth was a temporary thing, then the faithful would go to heaven.

    I read a wonderful book last month, by a top anglican theologian, who challenged most fundamental Christian beliefs, well reasoned with scholarly bible interpretation methods. He argued that the Bible really teaches any notion of paradise or hades, is a temporary state that follows death but precedes resurrection, judgement etc. Heaven comes later, and is probably for most, if not all, humans - at least eventually, saved as if escaping through fire (temporary spiritual remoteness from God...until....?) 1 Corinthians 3:12-15 says"the fire will test the quality of each man's work...if what he has built....is burned up, he will suffer loss, he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames" This suggests punishments are to purify rather than destroy. Other parables seem to support this idea of paying a price for what we do (see Matthew18:34-35 and Matthew 5:25-26)

    How about a much neglected text from 1 Peter 3:18-20 The writer said of Jesus death "put to death in the body but made alive by the spirit, through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison, who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah." See also 1 Peter 4:6. These people had been judged and destroyed by God yet Jesus then preached the gospel, the good news, to them as spirits so they would repent - yes, even after death. Food for thought indeed.

    I think it is better to admit no one on earth really knows. The more certain a religion claims to be about such teachings, the less true I consider them to be.

  • kazar
    kazar

    Good post, Jaffacake. It is reasonable to conclude that none of us on earth knows with certainty what happens after death. It's interesting that you have experience with Seventh Day Adventists. My best friend is a Seventh Day Adventist and there are times I have difficulty being around her because she becomes "preachy". It is reminiscent of what Jehovah's Witnesses believe. She has witnessed my departure from the Witnesses and as of now my very near agnostism or atheisim. She is a really good person and I love her and I never want to be unkind, so I try to listen to her as much as I can.

  • Evanescence
    Evanescence
    Seems to me that your body dies, but the spirit lives on until the last day when all are united with their bodies once again, but the second time around the body is incorruptible instead of corruptible, and in a paradise garden all over again.

    Not paradise Garden in Gods kingdom!!!!!!!

    http://www.catholic.com/library/Resurrection_of_the_Body.asp

    Evanescence

  • Evanescence
    Evanescence
    Catholics believe in an immortal soul that after death continues life either in heaven, hell, purgatory or limbo and is never reunited with the body but is able to experience emotions, pain and pleasure as the body did.

    uhhhmmmm I'd like to see your souce on that statement

    Limbo don't have a clue what that is!!!!

    Purgatory- you don't spend eternity there, your only there for temporary punishment, you stay there until you are ready to face God!

    Catholics do believe that the soul reunites with its body! on the final day on God's judgement!

    Evanescence

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