Elder says: Young People don't want to flip burgers to pioneer

by truthseeker 26 Replies latest jw friends

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    I approached an elder last week, and asked him if the Society was against higher education because of the comments brought out in the drama. He said the Society disapproves of higher education.

    He privately told me he disagrees with the view the Society has on education - he said it should be a personal choice.

    He has a teenage son who is considering going to university when he graduates high school. The son was confused by the talk and the drama, and thinks he'll be "looked down" upon if he decides to attend.

    This elder told me that there are "more young people going to university than pioneering."

    I asked why he thought this was the case.

    "They don't want to flip burgers for a living."

    He then said something very interesting, that "the Society discourages competition", which is one reason that young JW's can't attend school sports. They also "might get involved with immorality."

    He sensed a contradiction in the Society's stand becausse he then said that, "the Society seems to be OK with academic competition"; meaning it's OK for a JW youth to excel in school and come first place.

    As a side note, how many Awake articles have you seen, where on the back cover, some JW student won first place in some public speaking competition, talking about their faith.

    From what I gather, it's OK for JW's at high school to shine scholastically and win competitions when "it promotes religion", such as why JW's don't celebrate Christmas or take blood, but it's not OK to take part in after school sports.

    Regarding the dangers of immoral temptations faced by JW's who attend extracurricular activities, he said that, "if JW's want to commit immorality, they don't have to join a club or play in a team."

    It seems that the Society's official view of education is that it should strongly be discouraged, whereas the private view held by some is that education should be encouraged.

  • Dustin
    Dustin

    The JW religion destroys the lives of young people. Telling them not to go get more education, and denying them the oppurtunity to participate in sports or other after school activities seriously stunts their self-esteem and potential. I hate them for destroying my childhood, and I hope those 12 old losers die off soon.

  • luna2
    luna2

    Sounds like this elder's kid, at least, will get an education. It stinks, though, that he has to be made to feel bad about it and worry about being looked down on. What a screwed up bunch JW's are!

  • garybuss
    garybuss


    Elder I know has both his kids in college WITH his support.

  • littlerockguy
    littlerockguy

    "Elder I know has both his kids in college WITH his support."

    Probably because he doesn't want to clothe and feed them for the rest of his life!

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974

    Its great that this elder disagrees with the societies view but to me this is fundamental...how can he simply stay in if he fundamentally disagrees with the society....hes an apostate surely.

    Surely he must be able to see why the society disagrees and doesnt approve of higher education....to me its clearly to keep people dumb and plyable...as opposed to empowered and intelligent.This way they will accept without question the bollocks that comes from the platform....it annoys me that only us sees this.

    DB74

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    Diamond Blue

    how can he simply stay in if he fundamentally disagrees with the society....hes an apostate surely.

    The elder knows about 1975. Why does he stay in?

    Friends and family.

    The consequences of leaving are enough to ensure that most people "in the know" remain psychological prisoners.

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974
    The consequences of leaving are enough to ensure that most people "in the know" remain psychological prisoners.

    Yeah point taken...its the biggest lever the society has over people isnt it? Can't understand why I didnt think of that before I had posted...its annoying and scary though isnt it how much control one organisation has over their members.

    DB74

  • minimus
    minimus

    So, a college education will result in immorality....OK......

  • outoftheorg
    outoftheorg

    Name one activity that will NOT EVER lead to the possibilities of immorality if more than one person is involved.

    It is strange that SEX comes to mind and is used to curtail any activity the wbts wants to forbid.

    Outoftheorg

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