JW are such Liars

Es

My friend told me today that she had passed on to her friend my story bout being a JW and how now i dont have any support since leaving the borg mainly coz im marrying a "worldy" person and how my parents dont really have alot to do with me now. Anyway JW's came to this ladies door this week and she plainly stated that she is not interested but they kept hounding and so she said im not interested in a religion that can shun family members for not marrying in your religion, or not believing in the same thing, thats not what a loving God does. So these JW said "oh you must have the wrong religion we dont do those things"!!!!And she said well yes you do i have a friend of a friend in that situation, and then they replied by saying "you musnt have all sides to the story". After that they quietened right down and left. just thought that was rather interesting es

PaulJ

I think in that situation they might say anything to save face. They think that by shunning us, its a form of punishment- to make us want to go back!!!

Thing is I remember having a conversation with a friend (when I was a dub) who told me a rather aggressive JW had called on his door and had literally put his offt in the door to stop him closing it. I told him that that would never happen (i blamed it on Mormons, not JW's!!)- but I know there were people like that in the 'troof'.

I would think these were doing the same- and pretending it didnt happen or that its not true.

tijkmo

ah yes the old favourite...well you cant have heard both sides of the story

i had another 2 hour conversation last night with someone who called to say they had missed me at the dc at the weekend...which was nice...but i took the oppurtunity to ask about a previous conversation he had had with another elder who was supposed to be looking into a case of slander about me..

sorry this is boring me now....but long story short...one elder had told me that the other elder had told him something and last night when i asked him he said it was the other way round..that he had been told by the first elder...its not that huge of a deal in itself but its just another example of everyones inabilty to tell the truth because it would implicate themselves...and they keep falling back on the fact that since i was the wrongdoer in the first place i shouldnt be concerned about everyone lying to me and about me..in fact i should expect it....and they seem surprised when i tell them i dont want to live forever with these lying hypocrites

having failed to convince me that my attitude is the wrong one ...the last resort is to inform me again that i cant have been repentant..not now not ever

idiots

bygones..(i wish)

under74

I thought it was pretty much standard for JWs to deny the shunning policy until after they their claws all the way in...

trevor

In response to an article about Jehovah’s Witnesses that I had published in a local newspaper (Sussex UK) The presiding elder, when cornerd by a reporter, publicly stated that, ‘It was not the policy of Jehovah’s Witnesses to shunn people because of their beliefs.’

I was quite pleased because every person in that congregation and those in the town who knew about them, knew it was a lie. I challenged some Jehovah’s Witnesses, who risked contamination to speak to me on the phone about this, and they said he should not have said that.

My relatives said that Jehovah’s Witnesses do not shunn - and then they did.

My in-laws said they would not shunn me - and then they did.

The congregation shunned me - and the lied about it.

Yet they believe that liars will not inherit the kingdom of God. They are into denial!

Bt the way, I have come to terms with the situation and enjoy being left alone. I have real friends now and would not want the relatives or old crowd back in my life. I have moved on and realize how pathetic they are.

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greendawn

It's all down to theocratic warfare whenever they get cornered in public they always resort to telling big lies so as not to damage the image of their org, and the WTS official spokesman is always practicing this deceit hoping that the public at large is too ignorant about their real activities.

Honesty

It's all about 'how it will look to outsiders'.

Remember, it is Joe Hoba's clean organisation.

How pathetic that they put appearances above mercy, love, kindness, empathy and so many other Christian qualities.

I don't understand how the JW's can think they are anything like Jesus.

carla

I have told husband many, many stories from exjw's. It doesn't matter about what, from pedophilia to shunning. Always the same response, 'you don't have both sides', or 'have you spoken to the elders in the situation'. I can't tell if he is just flat out lying or really doesn't know that the jc meetings are private. And 'loose conduct' has many meanings usually the gossip seems to be of a sexual content. Talk about slander! I have even offered to show him court transcripts, then the answer is, 'that's just ONE example', 'there are bad people who are in the witnesses that doesn't mean they are 'real' witnesses'.

Of course, all you exjw's are just 'out to get the org'. Or have a 'beef' with the elders or cong. Basicallly, you all just lie or to be nice, embellish the story.

frustrated,

carla

luna2

That's so sad, carla. Unfortunately, he'll find out (eventually) that all the things you've been telling him are true. The problem is that he wants to believe in the bunk so badly that his mind is not open to anything that doesn't confirm his new vision of the world. I hate to say it, but I was the same.

Telling new converts that they will experience opposition and persecution right off the bat is so cunning. You now expect to be bombarded with negativity and take it as a sign that you've really found the TRUTH, and Satan is using your friends and family (if they oppose your new-found spirituality) to try to turn you aside. Once you descend into this mindset, almost nothing anybody says will make a difference until you...all on your lonesome...start seeing the cracks in the white washed facade. It can take years...and some will never allow themselves to see.

Sadly, I put all the half-truths and outright lies I caught elders, fellow JW's and even the GB in down to human imperfection for way too long.

tijkmo

carla ...well said

JW are such Liars

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