Can a Witness celebrate Quinceaneras?

by TresHappy 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • TresHappy
    TresHappy

    This is a big tradition for many in the Hispanic culture. But how can a Witness have or pay for one of these?

    Marking a rite of passage

    Hispanic ritual a chance for girls to leave childhood behind

    By GABRIEL RAMIREZ, Californian staff writer
    e-mail: [email protected]


    Posted: Sunday July 17th, 2005, 11:30 PM
    Last Updated: Monday July 18th, 2005, 10:46 PM

    Quinceañeras are a time-honored rite of passage for many Hispanic girls on the verge of womanhood.

    For parents, it's a time to introduce their daughter to the world.

    For daughters, it's a time to dress up and hold court.

    Daisy Estrada Serrano had her quinceañera on July 9. To her, it represented leaving behind the child she was and stepping into her young lady shoes.

    Daisy's mother, Irma Serrano, is a Jehovah's Witness and originally didn't want to have the party because of the religious aspects.

    Typically in quinceañeras, the young lady is taken to Catholic Mass where she recites a prayer and is introduced to God as a young lady.

    They decided to tweak the event by taking that part out.

    The compromise worked, not to mention saved money as the church would have charged a fee.

    And money can be a big issue.

    Quinceañeras can cost $4,500 to $15,000, said Reina Benitez, owner of Party Plus Design by Reina Corporation, a quinceañera and wedding store in Bakersfield.

    The event calls for just about everything a wedding does: A hall, decorations, the church (though not in Daisy's case) a lavish dinner, invitations, photos or videos, music, flowers, attendants and, of course, the quinceañera dress.

    Unlike a wedding, however, parents can, and often do, turn to godparents and other family members to help with the expenses.

    And instead of bridesmaids and groomsmen, quinceañeras have "royal courts," which can be as many as 14 friends and family members.

    Daisy had four couples in her court: Teresa Rivas, Azucena Vences, Yessica Vega, Karla Barajas, Ricardo Aldaco, Carlos Chavez, Irvin Valenzuela and Jose Vargas.

    Her companion was Albert Aldaco.

    "I chose Albert because he is close to me. I have known him since sixth grade," Daisy said.

    But the highlight is the dress.

    "It's the dress that stands out. It's the dress that makes people go 'WOW.' It separates you from everybody else," Daisy said.

    Daisy chose blue, though most quinceañera dresses are off-white or pink.

    The pinnacle of the evening is when the quinceañera and her court dance. Daisy choreographed it herself and it took weeks of practice for her and the court to learn to waltz.

    Daisy's event went smoothly and after dinner Daisy's father, Jose Abel Estrada, placed on her what were her first high-heeled shoes.

    Then came the much anticipated waltz. And finally Daisy was given her last doll, which signified her leaving her childhood behind.

    Afterward, there was a lot to clean up.

    "It was all so messy. But I didn't have to clean up, my family did it," Daisy said. "I have a lot of memories and overall I had a great time."

    She is looking forward to more responsibilities now, and perhaps even being allowed to date.

  • G Money
    G Money

    I don´t recall any but I switched to the english. Today a spanish brother called me, seems the whiteys ratted me out that I haven´t been and now my Mex brothers are hammerin me. I said, sorry, I´m gonna be in México soon, lo siento. No puedo ir contigo a tu discurso público. chao

    Uy! Qué asco!

  • Carol
    Carol

    I would think the JW's would view it like a Prom, bar or bas mitzpah, sweet 16 or coming out party and forbid them. My mother, back in 1967, got around all that and gave a "formal dance" for all of the teens in the congreagations around ours. Formal dress was mandatory....we had baked alaska with sparklers for desert and my father danced to Bobby Vinton's "Blue Velvet" with me to open the dance (it so happens I wore a blue velvet gown my mother had made for me in New York). All of this took place in a fancy restaurant 3 months to the day after I turned 16! BUT it was not a sweet 16 or a birthday party????

  • R6Laser
    R6Laser

    From all my years going to a spanish congregation, nobody ever celebrated a quinceanera. Quinceaneras were viewed as another birthday party. Thinking about it now, all the stuff on not celebrating birthdays was pretty stupid and pointless but that's what happens when one is a member of a high controlling group.

  • upside/down
    upside/down

    All the Witnoids I knew and associated with on SoCal..did...

    u/d (of the people ultimately do what they want class)

  • Doubtfully Yours
    Doubtfully Yours

    Big tradition in the Mexican culture. Big, big, big coming of age celebration!!!

    I've never heard of JWs celebrating one. However, do know of JWs that privately celebrate theirs and their children't birthdays every single year. They make it seem like a vacation, or just a night out, etc.

    Very clever indeed. I'm of the thought that the birthday celebration nonsense of JWs will soon be a thing of the past. Birthdays are milestones that need to be celebrated. In good taste and moderation, of course.

    DY

  • Carol
    Carol

    Doubtfully does this mean no ponies and clowns at my 55th?

  • lola28
    lola28

    No they could not, Quinceaneras are birthday celebrations the same as a sweet sixteen birthday party. Also the writer is correct most Quincianeras include a trip to a church (almost always Catholic) and then a reception afterwards. Lola

  • potleg
    potleg

    The old codgers in Brooklyn don't want to celebrate anything except the memorial, and we all know what a blast that is...it's amazing how wedding aniversaries and babyshowers slipped through their knarled fingers...

  • Brymichmom
    Brymichmom

    I am of Mexican descent and when I was a JW, no one would have ever thought of having a quinceanera! But I imagine, as more and more people of Mexican/Hispanic culture join the JW's, that they will want to keep this "tradition". However, I can see the elders, and other circuit/district overseers coming down on this "worldly" practice and forbidding it.

    Cynthia

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