IM from a dub who is disgusted at my presence on this board (page 13)

RichieRich

lol...

Since I'm in the same boat, I can say I never sleep better than I do after my daily dose of JWD!!

Honesty

Again IP thats whee the problems lies. when people leave the Org they leave Jehovah.

You can't produce any proof for that statement.

I would welcome your visit to my door if you would only promise to return every week for at least an hour for the next year. The problem is that the local JW's may find out and report you to your BOE and then you would have to explain to them why you are associating with an ex-JW who worships Jesus just as His 12 did.

Big Tex

Again IP thats whee the problems lies. when people leave the Org they leave Jehovah

Thank you defd for sharing with the Great Unwashed the thoughts of God.

You speak of being irritated, frankly sir this statement infuriates me. Do not presume to speak for me. This is the height of judgmentalism that Jesus spoke against. You do not know me, nor do you know the reasons I left this organization. Further I feel safe in believing that you do not speak for God.

I followed my conscience, rather than blindly follow an organization more interested in selling literature, and thereby making money, than helping people or even in teaching people about God.

I am curious, although I do not truly expect you to respond, but I will pose a question to you that I asked many times when I was in the process of exiting back in 1988-1989: What did the average Joe Isrealite do during the reign of one of the bad, faithless kings? How would a true worshipper of Jehovah, follow the Law when the temple had been converted to Baal (or whatever the god du jour) worship, the priesthood had been abolished, no Levites, no reading of the Law or teaching the people what Jehovah wanted from them.

How then did the average man and his family worship Jehovah when there was no organization to follow? Keep in mind this was not just a "spirit directed" organization, this was the chosen organization. And yet it went apostate multiple times, sometimes for decades at a time. One could have been born and lived out their life under the reign of a bad king without ever knowing the Law.

So seriously, what did a true worshipper of Jehovah do?

According to your thinking, if they left the organization of that time they had left Jehovah and therfore Jehovah throws them away. But the organization of that time was worshipping Baal, conducting human sacrifice and putting to death anyone still believing in Jehovah. But if they stayed true to the organization, would they have had Jehovah's favor?

Do you see the conundrum? See, I believe it is a mistake to follow men or a man-made organization. Certainly you can agree that the Bible consistently shows that man-made organizations fail. So can you not also agree that your statement is in error? Is it possible that there are times when men of good conscience must step up, make a stand no matter how difficult it may be and follow their conscience? If not, then certainly you would agree that the Jews would still be God's "chosen" organization. For Jesus himself, as well as the apostles, were apostates, standing against the Law.

See, I think it's a dicey proposition to make sweeping statements or to rely on organizations for solutions. I feel that if one wants to serve God, one should approach God for directions. If others disagree with your path, so be it. But perhaps it is better to be followers of God rather than of men, eh?

Chris

stillajwexelder

very well expressed indeed Big Tex

shera

Oh really now...who cares what this defed thinks about people who go to meetings and post here.

*unties my knickers*

and

* walks away*

heheh

I like him !

IM from a dub who is disgusted at my presence on this board

RichieRich

Honesty

Big Tex

stillajwexelder

shera

DazedAndConfused

DazedAndConfused

horrible life

vitty

vitty

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