I'm new to this discussion board, so this may have been covered before. I was raised in a JW family,(although I have been out for over 20 years) my mom and step-father are staunch believers. Being good JW's, they are against all "pagan" holidays, yet my mom took advantage of the boxing day sales, and my step-father accepted his christmas bonuses. If you strongly believe that christmas is wrong, then, wouldn't boxing day sales and christmas bonuses be wrong also? You can't have one without the other. My husband works with a JW, and the JW made his employers call the "christmas dance" the "Year-end dance" so that he could attend. I don't see what difference that makes. The dance was being held because it was christmas time.
Does anyone else see something "off" with this???????
Does anyone else find this hypocritical?
by Shaneliza 13 Replies latest jw friends
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Shaneliza
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RedhorseWoman
It just boils down to the fact that JWs don't really want to be different. So, they just rationalize and modify the "evil" sufficiently to assuage their consciences.
You're right, though, if something is wrong, then anything connected to it is also wrong. Changing the name of it doesn't make it right.
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willy_think
one of the characteristics of a cult is the manipulation of language. by changing the definition of words the cult can justify any action.
JW's like many cultists are very comfortable doing this themselves, after all how can his employees be offended buy a "year end dance". if thay said anything about the words not changing the nature of the dance thay could be seen as a threat to the WT since the WT does the same thing.i wonder who was sopken to by the elders it this kind of thing came up? the boss who goes "the year end dance" or the JW worker who questions it.
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bboyneko
For us americans, you may want to explain what the hell boxing day is and what it has to do with christmas?
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JanH
BB,
Boxing Day is, for some arcane reason, what Brits call 26. December.
Anyone know the background to this name?
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Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The DevilĀ“s Dictionary, 1911] -
BoozeRunner
As a JW, I always accepted Christmas bonuses. In many cases it an employers way of "profit-sharing." No matter to me-$ is $. I also worked for a graphic arts firm which did production on a Skin Magazine. Printing is my field, so I didnt care. Just another picture!
Boozy
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chester
Boxing Day
The day after Christmas, the Feast of St. Stephen, the first Christian martyr, is better known as Boxing Day. The term may come from the opening of church poor boxes that day; maybe from the earthenware boxes with which boy apprentices collected money at the doors of their masters' clients.
Nowadays, we often see, in certain families, gifts (boxes) given to those who provide services throughout the year."Boxing Day" is listed in the Canada Labour Code as a holiday.
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nytelecom1
one of the characteristics of a cult is the manipulation of language. by changing the definition of words the cult can justify any action.
JW's like many cultists are very comfortable doing this themselves, after all how can his employees be offended buy a "year end dance". if thay said anything about the words not changing the nature of the dance thay could be seen as a threat to the WT since the WT does the same thingi am a current dub and couldnt agree with you more......well..i think i could, not agreeing with your use of the word cult...but anyway...
it makes no sense..it is all about looking for loopholes...I can understand a witness who would not attend a office party due to the overt christmas undertones..santa jumping around ..etc....but of change the name of the party or dance does not change the spirit of it...i have taken it upon myself to go to every damn xmas party i can send presents to me!!!!
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Billygoat
This is a great question! Yes, I saw it too. I could get "Christmas" presents from my grandparents as long as it wasn't wrapped in Christmas paper. Give me break!!!! I sure knew it was a Christmas present and so did Gramma! My parents just thought they were fooling me into thinking it was okay!
Billygoat
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voltaire
Boxing day is when any red-blooded American boxer beats the snot out of a European boxer. It's like Christmas, Easter and New Year's day all rolled into one!