***IN THE PROCESS OF AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE UNKNOWN.***
Out,
Pack light and make sure you do your own packing. Also make sure no one else handles your luggage between home and the ticket counter. Baggage is something you need to be aware of, but you don’t need to have it weigh you down.
Just as suggestion.
Dave
Greatest Storm in History Coming Today
by Amazing1914 97 Replies latest jw friends
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seven006
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sonnyboy
Had those been blessed with the available technology that is still in it's infancy today, people may not have had to suffer the destructive forces of nature. Sattelite imaging, seizemic reading for the potential for earth quakes, even the Tsunami of a year ago or so that wiped life out on such a grand scale, could've been lessened due to the fact that there were warnings as to the Tsunami's destructive power that could've been sounded, but because of business & industry not wanting to cause a potential shortfall financially, in the event that there was not as big a problem as they would've believed to be, in thier limited reasoning, several more thousands of people were killed as a result of human greed.
Wow. Okay. If I'm getting the gist of your post, you believe that if we were as technologically advanced back when these things took place as we are today, loss of life would not have been as severe. Then you seem to gradually progress to modern times where human greed is the catalyst for us not being able to prevent natural disasters.In other words, you're STILL BLAMING THE HUMAN RACE for people dying in natural disasters, past and present, even though you claim there is a higher power who could have prevented them from taking place (and who conveniently created them in the first place).
When are you going to sniff the smelling salts and realize that HUMANS did not create the things which cause natural disasters? I'm not saying that some archaic god did, but we CERTAINLY did not. Tell me, how did we ever cause an earthquake to take place? A tsunami? A hurricane? A tornado? A volcanic eruption? I'm sorry, but as I see it, you seem to be desperately defending your belief system. You are not taking the actions of your alleged god into accountability. You are not looking at the bigger picture.
All I'm trying to say is, we should give credit where credit is due. If your belief system says that there is some all-powerful being which created everything, good and bad, then give this being credit. Quit trying to pawn his imperfections off on the rest of us. Regardless of our technology and when it came into existence, planet Earth has always been f'ed up in one way or another. Tell your perfect god that he made a boo boo or two.
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sonnyboy
I'm sorry if my last post sounded harsh, but I'm sort of intoxicated right now.
Little bro made some amrgaritas and I think I had one to many. LOL
I think my post made sense, but if not I'm sure someone will let me know. Nightall.
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prophecor
Sonny Boy, you have a reason for your feeling the way that you do. I'm not here to call you on the carpet about your beliefs. It can seem as if God does not care in the instances of life and death about his creations, when it is even I at times feel that somehow, something could've been done to remove or at the very least reduce the suffering that we as humans have had to endure on this often times, problematic planet.
The issue of over 6 Million Jews alone, exterminated by the Nazi regime was a space in time where I truly believe God got it wrong. Or at the very best just didn't allow us to understand why in his infinite wisdom and hoped for mercy, he would allow such a human catastrophe to take place.
I will never understand some things regarding Almighty God and the channeling of his mercy upon his creations. I know not the outworkings of the big picture. I have no way of knowing why so many had to die, before the killing came to an end with the destruction of Germany & Japan in WWII. I don't know how His outworkings play a role in the long range scheme of things. I do feel as far as life is concerned we are greatly insignificant in God's eyes, and still, I feel that he cares for us, even if we may not see it from our limited reasoning.
I don't argue the situation, but I don't believe that God wants us to suffer, as if he gets some type of enjoyment out of it. Am I defending my belief in a creator who cares for us despite the fact that there exist untold suffering on our part? Yes. I must say, however, that I'm not in defense of the WTBTS's views regarding God and man and our place in the world according to how they view things, though. This has nothing to do with them as it does trying to nail down a reasonable understanding of why things continue to go on in this world, without God's intervention. I don't have all the answers. The answers I do have are not even sure to be right, anyway, but this how I view it and how I feel things are.
In closing, and I hope you can get a good nights sleep after your day today, all I can do is hope for the best in this miracle of life. It's a wonder that we all get here to begin with. That one sperm and that one egg that colides in the formation of us as humans, was a journey out, that was no small feat in itself. I don't know where it all ends, but I'm still looking for gift of God's Grace, everyday of my life.
Life and death and the unique struggle to stay alive in this imperfect world is going to be an issue for all of us good bad or indifferent until the time when God makes everything OK, again. It's not easy being here. We all are suffering under something in this life. Nobody's got a perfect situation. But the struggle for life in this world will continue. I don't believe so much that God's got it in for us or that he just doesn't care, but I understand why you feel the way you do, more than you may realise.
ROMANS 9: 14-24
God's Selection Is Just
14 What should we say then? Is there injustice with God? Absolutely not! 15 For He tells Moses:
I will show mercy to whom I show mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.
16 So then it does not depend on human will or effort, but on God who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture tells Pharaoh:
For this reason I raised you up:
so that I may display My power in you,
and that My name may be proclaimed in all the earth. 18 So then, He shows mercy to whom He wills, and He hardens whom He wills.
19 You will say to me, therefore, "Why then does He still find fault? For who can resist His will?" 20 But who are you —anyone who talks back to God? Will what is formed say to the one who formed it, "Why did you make me like this?" 21 Or has the potter no right over His clay, to make from the same lump one piece of pottery for honor and another for dishonor? 22 And what if God, desiring to display His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience objects of wrath ready for destruction? 23 And [what if] He did this to make known the riches of His glory on objects of mercy that He prepared beforehand for glory — 24 on us whom He also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?
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free2beme
It is a sign of the end, time to return to the Kingdom Hall and ask for forgiveness!
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prophecor
It is a sign of the end, time to return to the Kingdom Hall and ask for forgiveness!
Sorry, my tickets already been punched, I got a one way
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Satanus
In the meantime we shouldn't keep looking for God to keep intervening if we don't want Him the rest of the time.
That isn't the attitude at all of the person who started this thread. Also, there are a lot of people that would love to hear from god the rest of the time. But, it's zicho, not even the burning breast thing.
S
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FlyingHighNow
When I was a child I lived in Morgan City, Louisiana when Betsy and Camille hit. Betsy's eye came right over us and Camille, though she hit Mississippi, belted us with 90 MPH winds. Betsy shut us down for a week, our fathers having to boat to the store for ice. It was both terrifying and exciting. I know how bad Camille was for Mississippi. Betsy didn't directly hit New Orleans, though they got some 137 MPH winds.
I remember how terrified everyone was that Camille would hit New Orleans and dump Lake Ponchartrain on the city. New Orleans was spared that time. Now it looks as if this nightmare will finally come true. My heart sinks to see the people, on TV, who are trapped there with no way out. Then President Bush comes on to say how dangerous the storm is. You'd think he'd be sending down better help to get those people out of harm's way. Instead, he'll be seen on TV declaring it a disaster area after the fact, trying to play the part of the hero...again.
Its looks as though my beloved Morgan City could be ruined as well. My heart is just breaking thinking of the lovely people there and the loss in lives, homes and livelyhood.
This is what Betsy did to us: Photo Gallery
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FlyingHighNow
If the local officials were smart they would direct traffic so that people could use both the north and south bound lanes to go north. Anyone who needs to go south can use one reserved lane. This would give the north bound traffic nine lanes to use.
Man, Else this is so true. And I'm even sadder that no one has done this.I'm on the verge of tears. That whole cajun and bayou area is my favorite place on this earth. I know so many people down there. Read this comment made last year about New Orleans and a category 5 hurricane:
September 14, 2004
Hurricane Risk for New Orleans: "if that Category Five Hurricane comes to New Orleans, 50,000 people could lose their lives. Now that is significantly larger than any estimates that we would have of individuals who might lose their lives from a terrorist attack. When you start to do that kind of calculus - and it's horrendous that you have to do that kind of calculus - it appears to those of us in emergency management, that the risk is much more real and much more significant, when you talk about hurricanes. I don't know that anybody, though, psychologically, has come to grip with that: that the French Quarter of New Orleans could be gone." (Nb. this excerpt from a fascinating 2002 American RadioWorks documentary does not refer specifically to Ivan.)
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BluesBrother
I M H O only.
God created the earth and and the weather systems.
Man built a city in a low lying area, in full knowlege of the pre existing weather systems
If a fraction of mans resources that are spent on millitary defence were spent on flood and natural defences , the danger would not be so great. [See Flyinghighnow's other post]
So how come some people want to blame God??
BTW . sincere best wishes to anybody down in the South of USA that is facing this thing.