This thread is a cornucopia of dumb comments.
Greatest Storm in History Coming Today
by Amazing1914 97 Replies latest jw friends
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prophecor
Boy George, Can you say nukeuler?
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Robdar
Well, Sonny, you are entitled to your opinions. I am sorry if it seems that I am attacking you. BTW, how would you have done it differently and still stayed within the natural laws?
Perhaps, just perhaps, God is not the way that the Christian religions have made him out to be. Perhaps the Bible isn't correct? Do you think, maybe, just maybe, it could have been tampered with?
Could anybody tell me where in the Bible it says that God is omnipotent?
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Robdar
This thread is a cornucopia of dumb comments.
Ya reckon?
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rebel8
darwin's natural selection states only the strongest survive. hurricanes can't judge the morality in every human being, they only eliminate the weak and make others stronger. that meteor that killed off the dinosaurs may have given birth to the earliest form of humans, a race that would terrorize this planet for centuries to come.
good point, but isn't it sad evolution only eliminates the weak in coastal areas?
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jaffacake
Perhaps the Bible isn't correct? Do you think, maybe, just maybe, it could have been tampered with?
Robdar, Or alternatively that we are just terrible at trying to understand what it really teaches, in my view it teaches the opposite of what millions of religious people believe, on most doctrines. Perhaps it is our childish, literalistic belief that it is verbally inerrant, which it doen not claim to be at all.
Could anybody tell me where in the Bible it says that God is omnipotent?
Right again, it does not. In fact there are scriptures that clearly indicate the opposite. But these are the Scriptures that many Christians prefer not to read, and pretend they don't exist, because they spoil our modern man made relifgious doctrines.
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Qcmbr
Which scriptures say that God is not omnipotent?
Matt 22:29
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
Jer 32:17
17 Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, [and] there is nothing too hard for thee:
Mosiah 3:17(lds)
17 And moreover, I say unto you, that there shall be no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come unto the children of men, only in and through the name of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent.
Rev 19:6
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
Matt 24:30
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
John 17:5
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
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sonnyboy
I am sorry if it seems that I am attacking you.
I don't think you were attacking me at all. As far as how I would have done things differently while abiding by the laws of nature, if you mean that if I were God, I would not have created a world which played host to natural disasters in the first place. An all-powerful being surely could have created a safer place for us to populate. If there were no natural disasters, God's alleged omnipotency wouldn't be an issue.
Could this alleged god be something other than what's depicted in the Bible? Of course he could be, but the fact still remains that he's yet to let himself be known, so no one can answer that question. I know if I were the creator and knew there was some book circulating the globe spreading libel against me, I would put a stop to it.
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darkuncle29
God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God...
Why do people always try and blame her for stuff?
I just wish that humans would get used to the idea that we are a part of the natural order of this planet and that storms and volcanos are not evil, mean, bad things out to get us. If a lady bug gets caught in a lawn mower, does he pray to his god--Je-Bug-Wah--to forgive him for his error? If a zebra is chased by a lion does she pray to Je-Kwan-Zah-La to save her ass?
I would be dissapointed if I died tomorrow if Mt Ranier blew it's lava load, but I wouldn't think it was evil or mean.
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jaffacake
Matt 22:29
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.Q, Perhaps we should both take a look in the mirror?
Jer 32:17
17 Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, [and] there is nothing too hard for thee:Q, Just an expression of awe, that you and fundamentalists appear to take literally and out of context. Here's another for you...Job 42:2 "I know that you can do all things; no plan of yours can be thwarted."
Mosiah 3:17(lds)
17 And moreover, I say unto you, that there shall be no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come unto the children of men, only in and through the name of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent.Q, You don't expect me to recognise that one do you?
Rev 19:6
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.Q, Just looked that up, and yes its there in the Diaglott - but that word is not in the Greek interlinear section! It just says almighty.
Matt 24:30
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.Q, Lots of things have great poewr & glory but that is not the meaning of onmipotent!
John 17:5
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.Q, I'm not arguing about Gods immense power and glory!
May I comment further by referring to 2 central Biblical doctrines: God created everything without exception (I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I the Lord, do all these things - Isaiah 45:7) The second is that God wills good (Every good & perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights - James 1:17)
Some things are impossible for God - It is impossible for God to lie - Hebrews 6:18; He cannot disown himself [Christ] 2 Tim 2:13 There seem to be necessities of the Divine nature, theologians put it "God is necessarily what God is". We also learn that God Is Love - 1 John 4:8.
The Bible does not speak clearly of creation out of nothing, in either creation account. It speaks of God's spirit hovering over the dep - what does this deep symbolise? The Bible does not say this deep (power of chaos) was created by God. There seems to be much metaphor in Scriptures that point to the fact that conflict & destruction, with possibility of failure, is somehow essential to development and creation. But once excellence is achieved, it can eventually be enjoyed without conflict.
All things exist 'in Christ' - in the mind of God so perhaps the possibility of conflict, opposition, destruction and chaos exist by necessity in any created universe containing free, rational creatures. God necessarily creates the destructive powers, but intends that they be opposed and eventually defeated by the renewing & reconciling power symbolised by Christ, the eternal wisdom of God.
I still say the Bible, in its original text, does not say or teach that God is omnipotent, but I make a technical point, not to diminish the power & glory. I think the Bible teaches so much more than what its actual words say, when broken down to texts. I don't believe we can understand the nature of God. But we can try to meditate on more spiritual meanings of scriptures, rather than getting hung up on literalistic interpretations.