Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus... (page 7)

Leolaia

Also, it is interesting that there is not a word about the prior legal actions of the WBTS against Quotes and Quotes' good-faith attempts to comply with their demands when deemed legitimate by his attorney (as documented on the website: http://quotes.watchtower.ca/admin-news.htm).

AlmostAtheist

My own blogging contribution (placed here to take advantage of Simon's near-immediate crawl by Google)

Jehovah's Witnesses Sue Former Jehovah's Witness for Witnessing About Jehovah's Witnesses

http://thebentinel.com/jw-watchtower-sues-witnesser.html

(This is not a satire article, nor is it linked within my satire site. I do have an article in the works, though!)

If I catch anybody using my newly-coined term "witnesser" without my express written consent, I'm gonna sue 'em within an inch of their life!

Dave

jgnat

Wowowowow. I want to print the whole darn thing and go over it with a fine tooth comb. Any treasures I find, Quotes, I will share privately. At this point there's no reason to publicly reveal strategy.

hamsterbait

There is a Toronto based Lawyer, who seems to delight in fighting cases against religious and other fanatics. He is counsel for the Canadian Civil Liberties Association: Andrew K. Lokan.

From what my google for a Defence pulled out he seems to have a good track record.

HB

Jourles

I saw something else(and Quotes, maybe you can explain this), but I did not see anything related to the word "official" in the website's keyword metatags:

<meta name="keywords" content="Quotes, Quote, research, information, Jehovah's Witnesses, Jehovah, Witness, Watchtower, Watch Tower, Bible, Yahweh, religion, the Truth, Society, International Bible Students, Canada" />

But in the meta name description tag it says:

<meta name="description" content="UN-Official quotes site of Watch Tower Society, the legal organization in use by Jehovah's Witnesses. Extensively researched source about current and past beliefs, teachings, activities." />

...which is what would show up under a web search description. That is the only instance of the word "official." But even then, it says "UN-Official," meaning, not officially of the WTBTS. So where are they digging this crap up from? Quotes, did you use to have "official" in the keyword metatags but then removed it later?

Maybe a search of the IA archives might show the past metatag content.

Jourles

Found it. **http://web.archive.org/web/20041123011133/http://quotes.watchtower.ca/ was a snapshot from Nov. 2004**. So the metatags were changed between Nov. 2004 and now. (Nov. 2004 was the last archive done)

<meta name="keywords" content="Quotes, Quote, Jehovah's Witnesses, Jehovah, Witness, Watchtower, Watch Tower, Bible, Yahweh, religion, the Truth, Society, International Bible Students, Official, Canada" />

Scully

Jourles

I think it's called "grasping at straws". Or "Spray N Pray".

The sheer volume of claims and subclaims tells me that they are just throwing whatever they can think of together and are desperately hoping that something will stick.

Axelspeed

As I read it, this is a bunch of legal sounding smoke...because I just don't see a legitimate basis...at least one that makes sense.

1) The CDs are not sold (wink) so there can be no monetary harm.

2) The CD itself is a replication of previously printed public documents...which were not sold (wink) but distributed.

3) The reference about the intent to embarrass is purely speculative, especiallly since these are direct quotes from there own literature, with no commentary.

4) The only way to prove that intent is to show that the quotes are taken out of context or are complete mis-quotes. Do you think they really want that? In that case the worst thing they could do is go to trial.

5) They do not want to make this a discussion of doctrine, but in order to prove the claims of harm they would ultimately and inadvertantly be exposing those very doctrines. Not whether the doctrine is true, false good or bad,....but whether they did in fact print what is now only being quoted....from documents that they themselves printed and distributed freely.

Axelspeed

core

Is there a fighting fund to support the legal costs of fighting this hypocritical organisation in this case ???

lonelysheep

I just emailed the editor in charge of special projects and investigations for the biggest newspaper in NJ--The Star Ledger. There are a lot of witnesses in this area, too. Dear Steven, My name is (Lonelysheep), and I am a former Bible student of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I hope you will do a story on this to help others realize the difference between a religion and a publishing company. I find it to be a life and death issue. This is the website in reference. http://quotes.watchtower.ca/ You can see the scan of the subpoena as well. http://quotes.watchtower.ca /scans/2005_09_8_watchtower _statement_of_claim.tif

I appreciate you taking the time to read this. Thank you. Sincerely, Lonelysheep

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