Another Warning From God

by Kenneson 162 Replies latest jw friends

  • gringojj
    gringojj

    Kenneson,

    god does not have to answer to us. If he wants us to believe he is a god of hate, who murders children and innocent people, then he need not answer because he has done a great job of letting us know that. However, if he wants us to believe he is a god of love, he needs to show us how that is, because I for one do not see it.

    Time for another analogy.

    Lets say I am the president of the most powerful nation in the world, but I do not let anyone into my country to see it. Nobody is allowed to come in or out of my country. There is also no contact to be made in or out, except that once in awhile I let the world know that I am a president of love. I say that I love all the people of the world, and I am righteous. Nobody ever sees me. When something good happens somewhere in the world, I send out a notice to all the people in the world it was my doing, although the people are skeptical because there is no way to prove or disprove it.

    Now, a few times a month I send out some bombs, and murder and injure thousands of innocent people. The people of the world wonder why I do it, but I just say dont question me, I am a president of love. I dont have to answer to anyone who questions me.

    What do you think the people of the world would think of me?

    Do you think they will see me as a president of love? The person I say I am?

  • Kenneson
    Kenneson

    Nark,
    I'm from Louisiana. The majority of the people in south La. are Catholic. Many are familiar with my experience. I preached throughout their cities and met the same type of hostility I am meeting here. A Catholic street preacher. Unheard of. They attributed it to my imagination. And many rejected it as are some on this thread. But I don't answer to men. I answer to God who made me aware. And if they think I'm a heretic, let them excommunicate me.

    Gring,

    I don't buy your analogies, because you are not God. Your thoughts are not God's thoughts, nor are your ways God's ways.

  • Kenneson
    Kenneson

    Golf,

    So, I'm asking you what was so comical? I'm serious as I can be.

  • JamesThomas
    JamesThomas

    Kenneson,

    Please tell us how it is humanly possible to truly, honestly and sincerely love your idea of a god who threatens to kill us if we don't.

    There is a psychosis called the Stockholm Syndrome, where people faced with threats of death and abuse may think they feel love toward their tormentors; but, it's not true, not real, not actual, so much as a mental breakdown from intense fear for self-preservation.

    Why do you choose a god who holds death and destruction over your head? I mean, with a god like that, who needs a devil? Why attribute such a wondrous universe to such a repugnant idea of god? Why worship something so vile? You can do better.

    You don't need to get your god from a crazy book. Go sit in the forest. Spend time with a horse.

    j

  • Kenneson
    Kenneson

    J.T.

    First of all, my idea of God doesn't come solely from a book because no book can contain Him. As to contemplating God, I've done that: in the solitude of the forest as you suggest. No horse, however. But all is not always tranquil.

    I've also contemplated God's use of thunderstorms and hurricanes as warnings. Is the forest scene contradictory to the latter?

    Vile and repugnant to yourself. But I'm not God and don't bring judgment upon Him. Why should anyone? Are we better than He is? More knowledgeable? Somehow superior? Than, perhaps we should claim to be God. But will it make it so?

  • JamesThomas
    JamesThomas

    Dear Kenneson,

    Go to the forest and don't contemplate. Don't think or try to harness God with your mind. Shut the hell up and surrender.

    The mind can not encompass our Source. Be still. Be with what is here when all mental beliefs, concepts and ideas of God are absent. Be with what is here when all beliefs in yourself and your relationship to the universe are absent.

    Be still and silently feel what it is to be alive. Silently, and without mental commentary, feel the aliveness in and around you.

    When all beliefs about God are absent, what limits are there to God then? What boundaries? Where does Divinity begin or end?

    Our Source and Sustenance does not need our beliefs, scriptures or jabberings (which are like peeing in the ocean in hopes of influencing the tide).

    Be still.

    j

  • JamesThomas
    JamesThomas

    The theme of most all of my posts has simply been: be still and do not allow books, beliefs or your mind to define or place limits on what the word G-o-d points to. Be still and discover who and what you really are; what everything and everyone truly IS.

    alt

    j

  • Kenneson
    Kenneson

    J.T.

    God, for me, doesn't point only to within. Why should I try to confine REALITY to merely being within me? Aren't you the one asking not to put a limit on what God points to?

  • JamesThomas
    JamesThomas

    Kenneson,

    Please reread what I have said; espeacially note where is mentioned what is "in and around you", and where is mentioned "what everything and everyone is". There are no limits here.

    The within part is important because it is here, within your consciousness, that the limitless of the Divine is realized as extremely intimate and close.

    j

  • doofdaddy
    doofdaddy

    IMO Jt isn't saying god is within. He is saying, stop the monkey chatter of the MIND, just sit in the present with no thought. Sitting in forest simply is a place that assists this state.

    Oh and by the way. I will not enter into debate, for the above reasons

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