Is "love" a product of evolution?

by AlmostAtheist 27 Replies latest jw friends

  • AlmostAtheist
    AlmostAtheist

    (This focuses on romantic love with someone you might have sex with.)

    Looking at the world from an evolutionary/natural selection basis, life exists to reproduce. If it can live through the process, that's fine. Particularly if it is needed to nurture the offspring to the point where they can reproduce. But if that isn't necessary, it's just fine with evolution if you drop dead immediately after producing a litter. Evolution couldn't care less about you. If you're a miserable, tired, pain-riddled wreck -- but you reproduce -- evolution considers you a success!

    Marriages are often unhappy, many result in divorce. Comedians and cultural programs often highlight the insanity of love. It drives people crazy. They are sad because they lack it, then sad because they fear losing it, or mourn the loss of it. They are ecstatic when it first hits, then they marry (and produce offspring) and it begins to die. Hence the various magazines screaming "Spice up your marriage" from every other headline.

    Love is portrayed as the ultimate experience. "It is better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all." But is it really all that? Or have we been hardwired by the uncaring forces of natural selection to just THINK it's all that? And is there a difference?

    I've programmed my brain to like it when I smoke. I don't really "want" to smoke. I cough, I clear my throat alot. I look stupid standing around doing something that obviously isn't good for me. I cough when I do it, for goodness sake. How much clearer does it need to be?

    And yet I do it. It isn't good for me, I don't "want" it, and yet I very much *do* want it. Is love like that?

    Any thoughts?

    Dave

  • defd
    defd

    NO

  • AlmostAtheist
    AlmostAtheist
    NO

    Oh, ok. Just curious. Thanks anyway!

    LOL! No wonder everybody likes you Defd, you're all right. :-)

    Dave

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Dave, if you get a chance, read the book The Descent of Woman. It talks about this theory and many others. One of the best books I've ever read.

  • jstalin
    jstalin

    Initial thoughts: I think love may be evolutionary, but marriage is not. Marriage is a social construct. Loving your mate and your children is probably nature's way of making sure children get raised. Men hunted and gathered to bring home the bacon while mom took care of the kids in the cave. Marriage probably works counter to the evolutionary desire to mate as much as possible.

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free
    Is "love" a product of evolution?

    No, it's a product of stupidity. Divorce courts are a product of intelligent design. It's still a work in progress though.

    W

  • upside/down
    upside/down

    What's this thing called love...?

    Where to put the emphasis....

    u/d (of the LOL class)

  • bebu
    bebu

    Love defined by... desiring to be with someone else (a particular person) for one's sexual, emotional, social fulfillment? The motives here seem suspiciously self-centered, need-based, something like an instinctual thing. Evolution could do be involved here; I don't know.

    Love defined by... steadily caring about the wellbeing of a person, whether s/he will love you back? I don't know how evolution could produce that, or for what purpose.

    bebu

  • Sad emo
    Sad emo
    NO

    Oh, ok. Just curious. Thanks anyway!

    ROFL you guys - well it was short and to the point eh?!

    I agree that maybe both those types of love mentioned by bebu are instinctual, bearing in mind that there are other animals besides humans which pair for life.

    Whether they evolved raises for me a question of when evolution began. I'm thinking that the desire for procreation must have existed from the start otherwise whatever organisms there were would have died out as quickly as they came into existed. So, is 'love' in its various forms 'built in' rather than evolved?

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    Interesting question.

    In what way does "love" serve to perpetuate the existence of an individual being? After all, if evolution (without "divine" guidance and an ultimate purpose) is the source and meaning of life, then nothing, absolutely nothing, done for the benefit of other beings makes any sense. In fact, it would call for the unrestrained indulgence in any and all personal activities that destroy other beings, without ethical or maoral restraints of any kind.

    So where does this "love" thing come in? I would say it must be a "programmed" emotion...which begs other questions.

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