by in a new york bethel minute 99 Replies latest watchtower bible
Scholar:
Whilst posting on this board you indicate how shallow your knowledge and all that you are doing is simply repeating apostate nonsense with nothing new but poor logic and a poor sense of biblical history.
Shall we take a tally of posters on the board of how many agree with me and how many agree with you?
The translation of malkut as kingship is a valid rendering because the Hebrew word denotes the activity of rulership and I never said that malkut means vassalage but such is characteristic of the reign of Jehoiakim. Right? There is absolutely nothing that indicates that Daniel was taken in Neb's acc or first regnal year either but the evidence is certainly there thar Daniel along with princely captives was taken in the first deportation at the end of Jehoiakim' reign or his 'third year'.
Jehoiakim was a vassal appointed by Necho. Nebuchadnezzar never appointed Jehoiakim as king, and it is solely WT folklore that suggests that Jehoiakim's reign was ever counted as beginning in any manner from the point from which Nebuchadnezzar demanded tribute from him in his eighth year.
agrees that the third year of Danoiel regers tho the last three year period of Jehoiakim's reign of eleven years. There is little point of me ridiculing Jonsson to you because you have nbot bothered to read his book tothe point of not owning a copy.
Where is COMF's "Eb'dee eb'dee eb'dee" whe we need it?
Whilst posting on this board you indicate how shallow your knowledge and all that you are doing is simply repeating apostate nonsense with nothing new but poor logic and a poor sense of biblical history.
When some replies like this its a sure sign they are losing the argument.
It's also a sure sign you're wasting your time. The 607/587 is so played out it's ridiculous to even argue it now. let scholar pretendus have his treasured Gentile Times dating. There's no convincing him otherwise and the rest of us know the truth. Sorry Jeff, don't mean to offend. If you're having fun, keep at it then.
Jeffro
Jehoiakim reigned as king some years before Nebuchadnezzer became enthroned as king but it was only at the end of Jehoiakim's reign, that is the last three years that he came to grief with Nebuchadnezzer. So your comment about WT folklore and the beginning of his reign is simply your distortion of historical fact because Jehoiakim's reign was well along in duration when Neb invaded Judah in his eigth year.
scholar JW
The JW Scholar has roused from his den of JW Scholars and will elucidate us with the wanderings of WT Scholarship. Tonight should be a good night, will we go back to Zechariah, Jeremiah, or Daniel? Hell, lets go into the pits of hell and understand the Lazarus Parable. Just a little water, just a drop, please, just a drop, and let me tell my brothers about this place. JW Scholar, at times you make life wonderfully amusing. Thank you.
Jehoiakim reigned as king some years before Nebuchadnezzer became enthroned as king but it was only at the end of Jehoiakim's reign, that is the last three years that he came to grief with Nebuchadnezzer. So your comment about WT folklore and the beginning of his reign is simply your distortion of historical fact because
So your evidence that Jehoiakim started his reign in some fashion in his 8th year is that he "came to grief with Nebuchadnezzar". The WT retellling of events is not based on any historical facts - by necessity of itself, it ignores them.
Jehoiakim's reign was well along in duration when Neb invaded Judah in his eigth year.
Yes, yes it was. So obviously Daniel was taken earlier.
Jeffro
Jehoiakim's kingship or reign was one of vassalage first under Egypt followed by Babylon. Correct? Nebuchadnezzer came up against Jehoiakim during the last three years of his reign then the deportation of Daniel occurred at the end of his reign in his 11 th year and Neb's eigth year which was 617 BCE.
scholar JW
Jehoiakim's kingship or reign was one of vassalage first under Egypt followed by Babylon. Correct? Nebuchadnezzer came up against Jehoiakim during the last three years of his reign then the deportation of Daniel occurred at the end of his reign in his 11 th year and Neb's eigth year which was 617 BCE.
The best place to hide a lie is between two truths, and this is an oft used skill of the practised liar. Yes, Necho set up Jehoiakim as king. Yes, there was a siege in Jehoiakim's 11th year (in 597BC). However, you have no evidence whatsoever that Daniel was taken at that time and Daniel specifically indicates the year of Jehoiakim's reign (using the accession-year system that the Babylonians trained him in) that agrees perfectly with Jeremiah's account. There is no reason to place that event any later in Jehoiakim's reign than what is clearly stated by Daniel. Nebuchadnezzar demanded tribute from Jehoiakim, but never appointed him as king; there is simply no alternative starting point from which to start counting Jehoiakim's reign regardless of whether you prefer to call it a kingship.
